Really???GuySmiley said:
Did John Mark Karr murder Jon Benet Ramsey?
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GuySmiley
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Yeah, strange I know. He was investigated for this case before I heard, so its not possible that he has absolutely no connection. I heard a handwriting expert on KOA this morning who said his writing matches the ransom note. And have you seen the yearbook note someone has given to the media written by Karr. He signs off with I shall become the conqueror. The ransom note ends with S.B.T.C. Coincidence? I DON'T THINK SO! And he has been obsessed with this case which I know many people use to say he didn't do it, but I think its evidence he did do it. I think many killers for obvoius reasons follow their cases closely.Knight said:
Besides all that, and most importantly, my gut says he did it! Or matbe my gut just thinks he's a complete sicko.
He has made his own connection to the case. Anyone could do that.GuySmiley said:
The only handwriting analysis I have seen matches Jon Benet's father.
Not to mention that nothing about the ransom note makes any sense in Karr's story. What? Did Karr make all the "trial" notes and leave them upstairs in the Ramsey house???
Do you suppose you have ever written anything that starts with the letters SBTC?
Or maybe... it's better to be in the USA accused of murder than to be in a Thailand jail. :think:
GuySmiley
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True, anyone could do that. But he was investigated in the case when it happened. He was ruled out due to an alibi by his wife. Now his ex-wife is sticking to her story, but maybe only because she won't admit lying before?Knight said:
I've heard a lot of different stories now. The official position was that Patsy was inconclusive, and I don't remember hearing about the father. The guy I heard this moring absolutely ruled out Patsy, and said it was Karr. But KOA also said he is criticized by other handwriting experts a lot.
Yeah, this is hard to imagine it would be anyone but a family member, but a killer might use paper from the house and do this. Unlikely though.
I bet I have. "Should Ben take Contac?" But it just doesn't have that 'end of a letter sign off' feeling.
This is very likely also.
Here's another admission I have. Since this case happened, I've always kind of rooted for the Ramseys to be innocent. I think because I hope that parents couldn't do that to their child. I would feel better if Jon Benet wasn't murdered by her own parents. I suppose thats weird in some ways.
Another adminssion. I don't really follow this case too closely, I've never read books about it, and I don't even pay attention to the news that closely. So there is a lot I'm unaware of I'm sure. But the question was to go with my gut feeling.
I don't think that is true.GuySmiley said:
I don't think he was considered in the case until several years later when he made himself connected to the case by talking with a reporter in Paris a few years ago.
Karr also told his father in 2001 that he was arrested for the murder of Jon Benet (which of course was a complete lie).
And... to my knowledge the wife has never had to give Karr an alibi until now.
Real Sorceror
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I say "yes". However, even if he didn't commit murder, the guy is still a pedophile and crazy person and should be dealt with accordingly.
:chuckle:GuySmiley said:
death2impiety
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He's crazy.
He "confessed" to a neighbor in California in 2001. She turned him in. The search warrant is where the found all of his "kiddie porn" that he was arrested for. After that, he fled the country.
John Ramsey is 100% excluded from writing the ransom note, and from having a match to the poor DNA sample.
Patsy was inconclusive, in that she was not excluded, but could not be shown to be her handwriting.
John Ramsey is 100% excluded from writing the ransom note, and from having a match to the poor DNA sample.
Patsy was inconclusive, in that she was not excluded, but could not be shown to be her handwriting.
I still say envy, pure and simple, is behind a lot of the rush to judgment against the Ramseys. I think the cops resented them for the money they had and wanted to go the path of least resistance--a member of the family had done the deed. Unfortunately there's never been much evidence that it's the truth.
GuySmiley
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After reading Knights post and looking into some stories about Karr, I've changed my mind to he had nothing to do with it. I repent of my previous posts! (Just like God, I can repent also.) The big issue with me is that he wasn't involved earlier until years afterward.