Denver Bible Church: Where sick people... die!
Wednesday October 6th, 2004. This is show #200.
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Wednesday October 6th, 2004. This is show #200.
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Denver Bible Church: Where sick people... die!
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LOL... That is classic! :chuckle:
philosophizer
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I could picture Bob doing that because someone's a moron, but not cuz they're sick.
wholearmor
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I called into this show to discuss Howard Stern and Pete Coors with Bob. That was the first time I'd called in. I enjoyed it.
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This past Wednesday, October 6.
wholearmor
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There's a link to it in the first post of this thread.
wholearmor
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I was going to be a nice guy and simply let that one go. :chuckle:
Sometimes I wish certain sick people would die:
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STONE
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brother Willi...
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STONE
elohiym
brother Willi...
I was kidding, STONE. It was a joke. But those who are sick, with wickedness will die in judgment. So my wish will come ture, but not necessarily involving those whom I named.:think:
It is commendable that sick people are not judged or manipulated in the church (my wife has MS). We need to show compassion and avoid heresies like all will be healed or prosper if we have the right formulas (presumption vs faith).
It is not commendable to dispensationalize away the power of God to heal. The Foursquare Church (Jack Hayford, etc....I am not a member of this denomination) recognizes that Jesus is the Savior, Healer, Baptizer (in the Spirit), and coming King.
Despite theologies that put God in a box, Jesus still heals and delivers by the power of the Spirit. We should pray in faith for the sick that they would be healed, as well as recognizing His sovereignty to not heal everyone (sometimes there are hindrances to healing, including unbelief and sin). This honors God and His Word and demonstrates compassion.
We are in a fallen world, and do not have glorified bodies yet. We are subject to viruses, bacteria, etc. This does not preclude the Kingdom of God breaking forth and touching us in spirit, soul, or body.
We hashed things out in the thread "Miracles lead to unbelief". I do not wish to start again here, but like the churches in Revelation, Denver can be commended and rebuked in this area.
God is glorified as His power and love are demonstrated even in the area of physical healing. We continue to trust Him even if many are not healed. He is God, we are not.
I want to be like Daniel and do exploits for our God in the name of Jesus. This includes the Gospel of salvation, healing, and deliverance (wholeness in our being).
Do not throw the baby out with the bathwater because of some flakey 'healing evangelists'. Our practice should be based on sound exegesis of the Word, not experiential anecodotes (I disagree with this aspect of Mid-Acts).
Jesus comes to give abundant and eternal life. Satan comes to rob, kill, and destroy. Death and sickness are enemies. I would not boast that our church is impotent to see people helped.
It is not commendable to dispensationalize away the power of God to heal. The Foursquare Church (Jack Hayford, etc....I am not a member of this denomination) recognizes that Jesus is the Savior, Healer, Baptizer (in the Spirit), and coming King.
Despite theologies that put God in a box, Jesus still heals and delivers by the power of the Spirit. We should pray in faith for the sick that they would be healed, as well as recognizing His sovereignty to not heal everyone (sometimes there are hindrances to healing, including unbelief and sin). This honors God and His Word and demonstrates compassion.
We are in a fallen world, and do not have glorified bodies yet. We are subject to viruses, bacteria, etc. This does not preclude the Kingdom of God breaking forth and touching us in spirit, soul, or body.
We hashed things out in the thread "Miracles lead to unbelief". I do not wish to start again here, but like the churches in Revelation, Denver can be commended and rebuked in this area.
God is glorified as His power and love are demonstrated even in the area of physical healing. We continue to trust Him even if many are not healed. He is God, we are not.
I want to be like Daniel and do exploits for our God in the name of Jesus. This includes the Gospel of salvation, healing, and deliverance (wholeness in our being).
Do not throw the baby out with the bathwater because of some flakey 'healing evangelists'. Our practice should be based on sound exegesis of the Word, not experiential anecodotes (I disagree with this aspect of Mid-Acts).
Jesus comes to give abundant and eternal life. Satan comes to rob, kill, and destroy. Death and sickness are enemies. I would not boast that our church is impotent to see people helped.
Sin and disbelief are not reason for not receiving healing. If God does not heal He has his reasons, yes, but these are not reasons. In fact, the main reason God doesn't heal is because He created the body to heal itself and sometimes He lets it do so. And sometimes it doesn't. So what? If it's someone's time to go, it's their time to go...
Do you know the definition of miracle? Acts 9 dispensationalism does not deny that miracles [including miraculous healings] do occur today. But they do know, according to scripture, that they are not as widespread as they were in Jesus' time and a short period of time after His ascension. And Acts 9/12 out shows why, with scripture.
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