Dear Gun Culture: THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE WROUGHT

Buzzword

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This is just....beyond sick.

And what is more sick is that it is simply the natural result of what the NRA, their pocketed politicians, and a brainwashed, brutal percentage of the American population have built.

11-year-old ‘bully’ murdered 8-year-old neighbor with a shotgun after dispute over puppy

AAn 11-year-old Tennessee boy has been charged with first-degree murder in the shooting death of an 8-year-old neighbor girl.

The Jefferson County sheriff said the boy, whose name has not been released, used his father’s 12-gauge single-shot shotgun to kill his next-door neighbor, McKayla Dyer.

The girl had been outside playing about 7:30 p.m. Saturday when the older boy asked to see her puppy, but she told him no, said Latasha Dyer, the girl’s mother.

She said the boy, who had bullied her daughter since moving to the mobile home park in White Pine, went home to get the shotgun and then shot her daughter in the chest.
 

Greg Jennings

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This is just....beyond sick.

And what is more sick is that it is simply the natural result of what the NRA, their pocketed politicians, and a brainwashed, brutal percentage of the American population have built.

11-year-old ‘bully’ murdered 8-year-old neighbor with a shotgun after dispute over puppy

Gun owners should be required to own child-proof gun storage safes. Your example here seems like a very rare occurrence and if the child was willing to kill over the puppy then do you really think that not having a gun handy would've stopped this? There are knives in the kitchen, perhaps a hammer in the garage. This is just bad parenting and also carelessness in proper weapon storage. The parents of the "bully" child should be prosecuted
 

patrick jane

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This Charming Manc

Well-known member
The people responsible for these incidents + lots of guns = death toll

The same people without guns = much lower death toll.

11 year olds shooting 8 years olds over a puppy is not normal, inevitable or acceptable.

Its a sign of a sick sick society.

Psychotic and sociopathic incidents - ISOLATED - will always take place. This has nothing to do with CC or proper gun ownership, nothing to do with the NRA.
 

This Charming Manc

Well-known member
Lines i'm expecting to hear from the gun nuts

"guns aren't the problem it is puppy control we need"

"if only the 8 year old had a gun herself"

"the 11 year old would had killed her without a gun anyway"

"the 11 year old is a government stooge and its a false flag operation to allow the government to steal our guns"

"its liberal fault for stopping 8 years old owning guns"
 

This Charming Manc

Well-known member
wow you know the answer ... so why ask

ill bother to answer it could happen, but to my knowledge it has never happened.

neither has this

http://news.sky.com/story/1399907/two-year-old-boy-shoots-mother-dead-at-walmart

or this

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/three-year-old-boy-accidentally-shoots-dead-his-mother-as-she-changes-her-younger-daughters-nappy-9884682.html

or this

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-33115246

or this

http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2015/08/i_hurt_my_dad_family_distraugh.html

all within the last 12 months, found in a 30 second google saerch.

but there no problem, no issue, its all acceptable, because tomO likes owning a gun.

That is the bottom line isn't it, you don't give a monkeys, because you just like owning a gun because it makes you feel macho.

The weapon involved is a single shot shotgun...Can you say that this cannot happen in the U.K.? :plain:

:listen: Ten bucks says he meanders on about it being "less likely" and whatnot.
 

This Charming Manc

Well-known member
Its a sign of a sick sick society.

Just to clarify this just isn't a dig at the states, or about gun law.

Its about gun culture, but its also about the dis-attachment with parenting values and decency that goes across the entirety of western culture.
 

musterion

Well-known member
Recently a British soldier had his head sawed off by a devout Muslim in broad daylight on a public street in front of dozens of the soldier's fellow citizens. Had they even been willing to try to stop it, they were utterly unable barring stabbing him themselves or rushing him en masse. Instead, he proudly held up bloody hands to the ever-waiting cameras and preached Islam to the dumbfounded kaffirs as the soldier's blood pooled on the pavement, his head separated from his body.

In many areas of the U.S. there'd have been at least a chance someone with CC could have dropped him on the spot, perhaps while the soldier was only still stabbed and not yet decapitated. But in the U.K. - where law-abiding citizens are the most disarmed citizens - there is zero chance of that happening.

Now TOL's idiot leftist drones want that same setup imposed on the U.S.

If you want to call that "gun culture," go ahead. I prefer things as they are.

Incidentally, here's Bill Whittle talking about Buzzword.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=3&v=pELwCqz2JfE
 

Rusha

Silence Is The Best Reply To A Fool ...
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The people responsible for these incidents + lots of guns = death toll

The same people without guns = much lower death toll.

11 year olds shooting 8 years olds over a puppy is not normal, inevitable or acceptable.

Its a sign of a sick sick society.

Because using a rock to bash someone's head in is perfectly normal and acceptable ...

Ban rocks.
 

musterion

Well-known member
Because using a rock to bash someone's head in is perfectly normal and acceptable ...

Ban rocks.

The U.K. should ban model paint and batteries while they're at it. They can murder people like guns can, so they're just as evil as guns.

And speaking of a truly sick culture:

Both men [who murdered the toddler when they were boys] were given new identities and moved to secret locations under a "witness protection"-style action.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Bulger#cite_note-witness-60 This was supported by the fabrication of passports, national insurance numbers, qualification certificates and medical records. Blunkett added his own conditions to their licence and insisted on being sent daily updates on the men's actions. . .A spokesperson for the Ministry of Justice stated that there is a worldwide injunction against publication of either killers' location or new identityhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Bulger#cite_note-STM-3

And one of them went back to prison a few years ago for possession of child porn.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Bulger#cite_note-STM-3
 

musterion

Well-known member
It's right up there with banning cars. Innocent people die everyday because in the hands of an idiot, cars are dangerous weapons.

There is nothing the Left does not want to ban OTHER people from having while retaining full (if secretive) access to the same things themselves. Just look at the several famous hypocrite gun outlawers who ended up busted for illegal possession of a firearm.
 

This Charming Manc

Well-known member
Recently a British soldier had his head sawed off by a devout Muslim in broad daylight on a public street in front of dozens of the soldier's fellow citizens. Had they even been willing to try to stop it, they were utterly unable barring stabbing him themselves or rushing him en masse. Instead, he proudly held up bloody hands to the ever-waiting cameras and preached Islam to the dumbfounded kaffirs as the soldier's blood pooled on the pavement, his head separated from his body.

You talk about one incident over 2 year ago, since that point 15,000 Americans have been murdered with guns, add to that all of the a accidents and incidents.

In many areas of the U.S. there'd have been at least a chance someone with CC could have dropped him on the spot, perhaps while the soldier was only still stabbed and not yet decapitated. But in the U.K. - where law-abiding citizens are the most disarmed citizens - there is zero chance of that happening.

Seeing as he was run over first it would have been hard unless you expect Americans to take pot shots at erratic drivers.

Do you really think for fantasy scenario of stopping an IS attack is worth 15,000 real deaths?

Now TOL's idiot leftist drones want that same setup imposed on the U.S.

If you want to call that "gun culture," go ahead. I prefer things as they are.

So you happy with the Status Quo where a 11 year shoots an 8 year old? You think thats OK?
 

This Charming Manc

Well-known member
There is nothing the Left does not want to ban OTHER people from having while retaining full (if secretive) access to the same things themselves. Just look at the several famous hypocrite gun outlawers who ended up busted for illegal possession of a firearm.

Really that is the best you can come up with? Naming calling and random unrelated and unverified claims.

If i was you id shut up, because your arguments are looking more pathetic every time you post. A 11 year shot an 8 year old with a shotgun, and you response is its a left wing conspiracy so the can keep all the guns ?

Do you actually believe any of this ............ stuff?
 

Quetzal

New member
Lines i'm expecting to hear from the gun nuts

"guns aren't the problem it is puppy control we need"

"if only the 8 year old had a gun herself"

"the 11 year old would had killed her without a gun anyway"

"the 11 year old is a government stooge and its a false flag operation to allow the government to steal our guns"

"its liberal fault for stopping 8 years old owning guns"
:chuckle: Sounds pretty absurd, doesn't it?
 

This Charming Manc

Well-known member
An 11 year old didn't bash a 8 year old head in with a rock over an argument over a puppy though did he?

He shot her with a shotgun.

Does an event that repulsive, wrong and abnormal not make you think instead of just repeating the same tired arguements?

What does it take to make intelligent people realise something is just not right about the situation?

Because using a rock to bash someone's head in is perfectly normal and acceptable ...

Ban rocks.
 
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