Creation vs. Evolution

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MichaelCadry

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Ok All,

I am outta here. This line length is too ridiculous.
I've said what I've wanted to, and I want to congratulate Dave,
Mark and 6days for what they're contributing to this thread of
mine. I truly appreciate it, even though it's hard to understand
sometimes. How's this for a good line length??

Love You All Much, In Christ Jesus!!

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Mark SeaSigh

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[Revelation 22:9-11 KJV] 9 Then saith he unto me, See [thou do it] not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God. 10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. 11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

=M=


I'm no Prophet Either, Just a Fellow Servant.

Barbie said:
Every transitional fossil shows up suddenly and fully formed. What does a half-formed animal look like? C'mon. Be honest with yourself here

LOL!!! That's why God Creating Animals in Full Adult Form, With Functional Anatomy, like the Bible Says; Makes More Sense than the Theory of Evolution (Speciation) as the Origins of the Various Species we share the Planet with.
 
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Barbarian,

Fix this line length problem, or I will contact a moderator to do it for us.

Michael

The line length problem was caused by the giant picture. If you are going to put up a giant picture please use spoiler tags
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Found a smaller diagram of the requested transitional between Archaeopteryx and earlier dinosaurs. You can look at that if you like.

Do you suppose Dave will now man up and show us those two major groups without a transitional?
 

The Barbarian

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LOL!!! That's why God Creating Animals in Full Adult Form like the Bible Says;

Maybe you should read the Bible instead of let other people tell you what it says. The Bible doesn't say God created animals in adult form. Or maybe you just formed it out of your imagination and pretended God said it.
 

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Found a smaller diagram of the requested transitional between Archaeopteryx and earlier dinosaurs. You can look at that if you like.

Do you suppose Dave will now man up and show us those two major groups without a transitional?

Every transitional fossil shows up suddenly and fully formed. What does a half-formed animal look like? C'mon. Be honest with yourself here, and just take a deep breath, stand up and show us those two major groups. Or admit you were blowing smoke about a supposed lack of transitionals.

Now, I've Got you Barbie!!!

Barbie; Dave Just got you to Admit there are No Transitional Fossils for Any Animals; Why do you believe man Descended from a Chimp-Like Being in less than 3 Million Years?

=M=

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So the Question is; Does Speciation happen: Fast, Slow, or Not at All?

Barbie said:
you should read the Bible instead of let other people tell you what it says. The Bible doesn't say God created animals in adult form. Or maybe you just formed it out of your imagination and pretended God said it.

Maybe you should read the Bible instead of let other people tell you what it says. The Bible doesn't say God Created Man as A Chimp that needed to Learn to Talk Walk and Write. You do though, why is that? Extrabiblical Beliefs, Barbie?
Tisk Tisk Tisk.

Barbie Doesn't understand, that God made a Few Feathered Dinosaur Species.

She thinks if things have like anatomy, they must have descended from one another; Never considering the Possibility of a Common Creator Creating Many Forms, with Like Anatomical Features (Like Eyes Ears Lungs, and So On).
What doesn't make sense to me, is to believe that Lungs, and Eyes can form themselves through reproduction, Mutation, and Weaker Species Dying off over time; if you ask me Survival of the Fittest Merely leads to Extinct Species, and is a Great Reason for why Many Animals no Longer Exist, not a Reason for why Many Animals Exist and are Observable.

Barbie, you know the Bible does not Support Evolution.

Are you one of those Catholics that Believes that the Bible says Earth and Water, and not Man and Woman?


I've heard of these People.

[Genesis 2:4-7 KJV] 4 These [are] the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and [there was] not a man to till the ground. 6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. 7 And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.


Have you heard of any Apes, Tilling the Ground; Lately, Barbie?


God did not Create us Chimp-Like, and then Let us Reproduce into People; God Created man to till the Earth, and Subdue it.

Wake Up, Barbie.
It matters what you believe about this.

[Genesis 1:25-28 KJV] 25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that [it was] good. 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Dominion Over; The Fish, the Birds, and over Every Living Thing that Moves on the Earth; Does that sound like a Chimp-Like Being, if they have dominion over Fish?

Show me a Chimp Eating a Fish, or a Bird.
 
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Found a smaller diagram of the requested transitional between Archaeopteryx and earlier dinosaurs. You can look at that if you like.

Do you suppose Dave will now man up and show us those two major groups without a transitional?

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One shows feathers and wings the other shows neither.

http://creationscience4kids.com/tag/protarchaeopteryx/

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(Barbarian challenges Dave one more time to man up and show us those major groups without a transitional)

(David dodges again)

One shows feathers and wings the other shows neither.

Funny you should mention that. The first fossil of Archaeopteryx was classified as that of a dinosaur, because the feather impressions weren't preserved. However, it is known that Protarchaeopteryx had symmetrical feathers on the tail and simpler feathers on the rest of the body.

Notice the skeleton I posted. The same wing bones found on Archaeopteryx. A little shorter, though.

At around 1 metre (3.3 ft) in length, it would have been larger than Archaeopteryx.[4] Protarchaeopteryx also had symmetrical feathers on its tail.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protarchaeopteryx

So are you ready to show us those groups lacking a transitional, now?
 

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Barbie Speaks in the Third Person to other People.

You are a Joke Barbie, stop Lying about My Holy Book.

Yes, I am Calling you a Liar; If you wont fess up to the Fact that the Bible Says God Created Man in Full Anatomical Form.

=M=

Feet Chins and All, Barbie Girl; Feet Chins and All.

Not to mention a Brain Nearly Four times the Size of an Ape's.

Man is One Race, and We Didn't Descend out of Different Groups of Chimps or Gorillas, Barbie.
Tell the Rest of your Kind, to Stop Teaching Children your Filth.

Men are Not Apes, Barbie.

Male Chimpanzee Skeleton;
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Tell me what happened to the Crown of the Skulls that Apes Possess, in Males, as Apposed to Human Men?

Female Ape's do not Contain these "Crowns"; Why is there no Sign of these on the Human Male Skull?

Where's your True Evolution, Now; Barbie?

Man is not an Ape; According to God's Word, and Observable Evidence.

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Why is it that in the Past, Whenever I've Seen an Chimp-Man Comparison; It's always a Female Ape being Compared to the Male Man?


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There we Go;

The Above Skeleton of a Chimpanzee, is a Male; This Below is A Male Man's Skeleton;

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Gorilla Vs. Man;
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[Hosea 4:1-6 KJV] 1 Hear the word of the LORD, ye children of Israel: for the LORD hath a controversy with the inhabitants of the land, because [there is] no truth, nor mercy, nor knowledge of God in the land. 2 By swearing, and lying, and killing, and stealing, and committing adultery, they break out, and blood toucheth blood. 3 Therefore shall the land mourn, and every one that dwelleth therein shall languish, with the beasts of the field, and with the fowls of heaven; yea, the fishes of the sea also shall be taken away. 4 Yet let no man strive, nor reprove another: for thy people [are] as they that strive with the priest. 5 Therefore shalt thou fall in the day, and the prophet also shall fall with thee in the night, and I will destroy thy mother. 6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

Wake Up, Barbie; and Other Evolutionist Christians!

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Then God said, “Let the waters swarm with fish and other life. Let the skies be filled with birds of every kind.”*21*So God created great sea creatures and every living thing that scurries and swarms in the water, and every sort of bird—each producing offspring of the same kind.
Nothing says how that happened, only that it came from nature. Why does it so offend you that He did it using nature?
What is offensive is someone who is so dishonest yet claims to be Christian. Those verses say nothing about things coming from nature.
Indeed. It is the creationist habit of conflating the creation of the universe from nothing with the creation of life, which God says was from previously created things.
Actually God's Word tells us.....By faith we understand that the entire universe was formed at God's command, that what we now see did not come from anything that can be seen. Hebrews 11:3

Impossible. Adam and Eve together could have had at most, 4 alleles for each gene locus. Yet humans today have dozens for most of them.
Seems as if you have fallen for the evolutionary models of BioLogos rather than what God's Word tells us. The dozens of alleles are easily explained within the Biblical creation / fall / flood model. You need do some research other than reading talk origins and Biologos.

Genesis 1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
Doesn't say what you want it to say, does it?
Its not a matter of wanting it to say any certain thing...its a matter of believing what He tells us. Lets believe verse 11 and also verse 12 and 13.
11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

13 And the evening and the morning were the third day


Genesis 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Nothing about offspring of the same kind. You made that up as you wished.
That translation says "after their kind"

I often use the New Living Translation, which says
Genesis1:21So God created great sea creatures and every living thing that scurries and swarms in the water, and every sort of bird--each producing offspring of the same kind. And God saw that it was good.


So, doesn't it mean anything to you, that you feel compelled to change is word in order to make your point?
24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. 25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

So, doesn't it mean anything to you, that you feel compelled to change is word in order to make your point?
You are being dishonest again. Doesn't it mean anything to you, that you feel so frequently compelled to resort to dishonesty in order to make your point?
In any case... Perhaps God knew some people would have a hard time believing things if He only said it once. Notice in those two verses how God makes a point of telling of of all the various animals after their kind.
 

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God created the elements and building blocks of matter and life, at that moment there was light - 1st day. God's Spirit filled all space day 2 through 5 (if we continue to mince words and days and the chicken or the egg type of excruciating minutia it's to our own detriment). the solar system, galaxy, universe were now ready for the 6th Day when He created man in His image and breathed life into Adam. there might be some "ology" or "ism" for what i just said but if there is i never studied it. i arrive at my own conclusions and you can call me whatever you want. we are on day 7. unless you think maybe it's day 8 or 10 or 79734564218. really ? evolution or whatever you want to call the natural progression of everything is observible on a basic level by a 5 year old (maybe 3 today). meditate on something besides numbers and specific words once in a while, put it together in your head like Moses who wrote it, not like me or any other person. figure it out and move on:rapture:
 

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Hey Michael!!! : D

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Did you see Barbie Run off Cryin' about those Monkey and Human Skulls?


What's up with that? It's almost like she finally realized that the Bible is True, and the Darwin's Theory of the Origin of Species is fully Flawed. Go Figure, it's just what people have been saying here for forever!!!
 

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hi michael, yes my schedule is weird right now. hope i don't offend you too much with my posts. nobody really talks to me. what am i doing wrong?:rapture:
 

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I don't think you are doing much wrong as far as I've Seen.
Most people don't talk to me Either, you know. They always Scoot off.

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That's why I try to Throw up as much evidence as I can before they go Runnin' off Like Barbie did.

Same thing with Politics, I know my Profile says Little to the Left, but that has nothing to do with my Religious or Political Views; I'm actually very Non-Political, but I believe that there is Only One Right Answer, in any given Problem.
 

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(Barbarian challenges Dave one more time to man up and show us those major groups without a transitional)

(David dodges again)



Funny you should mention that. The first fossil of Archaeopteryx was classified as that of a dinosaur, because the feather impressions weren't preserved. However, it is known that Protarchaeopteryx had symmetrical feathers on the tail and simpler feathers on the rest of the body.

Notice the skeleton I posted. The same wing bones found on Archaeopteryx. A little shorter, though.

At around 1 metre (3.3 ft) in length, it would have been larger than Archaeopteryx.[4] Protarchaeopteryx also had symmetrical feathers on its tail.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protarchaeopteryx
So are you ready to show us those groups lacking a transitional, now?
 
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