Creation vs. Evolution

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patrick jane

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i try not to think too much about what happens immediately at death in our physical bodies. i like to fast forward. there's alot of different views about that moment and up to the second coming within Christianity but in the end, believers will be with God. in His Presence. everything will make sense. so, you might say well, i guess i'll believe just in case. i know it sounds crazy to unbelievers but that's the enemy at work. i try not to get all Biblical on my friends and family because they quit listening fairly quickly so i try explaining in a way that sparks interest in the Bible. somehow i just knew as a very young child even at earliest 3 year old memories, i knew and felt God, i didn't identify it as God maybe at the time but even before i knew about Jesus i sensed God. then i spent the next 35 years or so getting further and further away. i tried to be an unbeliever and go strictly with science and it didn't take. i was a believer at my core and re-examine The Bible with adult eyes. i have a peace and contentment with lining up scripture with what we know in ALL aspects of science. intelligence, awareness, dna, space and time, universes or multiverses all point to our magnificent God. thanks for listening
 

Mark SeaSigh

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everready;

EverReady said:
Trees or Mushrooms; What do you think existed First? they were both created on the same day

I totally agree; On the Third Day, of the Creation of the Earth, as the Word of God says.


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"Atheist Bait", listed above.
 

MichaelCadry

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everready;

I totally agree; On the Third Day, of the Creation of the Earth, as the Word of God says.


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"Atheist Bait", listed above.


Dear Mark,

Yes, it's a trick question. You are really good at your colors and bold, and italic, etc. Cool!! I'll have to work at it. Looking forward to hearing more from you today, if you get the chance.

Michael

:rapture:

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Ben Masada

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i try not to think too much about what happens immediately at death in our physical bodies. i like to fast forward. there's alot of different views about that moment and up to the second coming within Christianity but in the end, believers will be with God. in His Presence. everything will make sense. so, you might say well, i guess i'll believe just in case. i know it sounds crazy to unbelievers but that's the enemy at work. i try not to get all Biblical on my friends and family because they quit listening fairly quickly so i try explaining in a way that sparks interest in the Bible. somehow i just knew as a very young child even at earliest 3 year old memories, i knew and felt God, i didn't identify it as God maybe at the time but even before i knew about Jesus i sensed God. then i spent the next 35 years or so getting further and further away. i tried to be an unbeliever and go strictly with science and it didn't take. i was a believer at my core and re-examine The Bible with adult eyes. i have a peace and contentment with lining up scripture with what we know in ALL aspects of science. intelligence, awareness, dna, space and time, universes or multiverses all point to our magnificent God. thanks for listening

Well, Patrick, believers or not, once dead which we all will experience some day according to Mark 12:27, God is not a God of the dead but of the living. It means that no dead one will be with God. Unless you mean by being with God, the eternal rest of the grave.
 

MichaelCadry

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i try not to think too much about what happens immediately at death in our physical bodies. i like to fast forward. there's alot of different views about that moment and up to the second coming within Christianity but in the end, believers will be with God. in His Presence. everything will make sense. so, you might say well, i guess i'll believe just in case. i know it sounds crazy to unbelievers but that's the enemy at work. i try not to get all Biblical on my friends and family because they quit listening fairly quickly so i try explaining in a way that sparks interest in the Bible. somehow i just knew as a very young child even at earliest 3 year old memories, i knew and felt God, i didn't identify it as God maybe at the time but even before i knew about Jesus i sensed God. then i spent the next 35 years or so getting further and further away. i tried to be an unbeliever and go strictly with science and it didn't take. i was a believer at my core and re-examine The Bible with adult eyes. i have a peace and contentment with lining up scripture with what we know in ALL aspects of science. intelligence, awareness, dna, space and time, universes or multiverses all point to our magnificent God. thanks for listening

Dear patrick jane,

The best part is that you returned to God. Smart move! He must have been putting it within your heart to come back and choose Him. It's a good time too, since Armageddon is upon us and Jesus and God taking souls to Heaven.

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:)

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That sounds a little crazy, given the demonstrations that useful information happens through random mutation and natural selections.

News flash, nature cannot make a selection!

Selection is choice based on will and intelligence.

Randomness does not produce order or integration, it does the opposite.

--Dave
 

The Barbarian

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News flash, nature cannot make a selection!

Selection is choice based on will and intelligence.

Randomness does not produce order or integration, it does the opposite.

--Dave

Sorry, you're wrong. Natural selection is directly observed. And random variation plus natural selection produces order. Would you like to test that fact?

BTW, you were going to tell me about the two major groups said to be evolutionarily connected, that don't have a transitional. When do you think you'll be answering that?
 

Mark SeaSigh

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Well, Patrick, believers or not, once dead which we all will experience some day according to Mark 12:27, God is not a God of the dead but of the living. It means that no dead one will be with God. Unless you mean by being with God, the eternal rest of the grave.

When you die, your spirit goes back to God who Gave it.

Your body Decays, but your soul is safe with God.


Stay Alive Guys; Things are getting Hairy Out there. It's nice up on the hill though, had some really fluffy snow yesterday, So Beautiful.

Not that you need me to tell you to stay alive; I'm certain you will do your best to do that anyway.

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Secret Societies? Masons?
 
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Mark SeaSigh

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Let's talk about them for a Moment; what do you all know about them?

I don't usually touch on that subject, but hey; What the Heck?

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I know they Lie about the Name of God;

https://www.blueletterbible.org/study/misc/name_god.cfm

Mason Says It All;


What else do we know of these People/Men?


I don't know about Masons, but I am a Christian; and, That Video Blows My Mind!

Other Than, Of Course, They have No Idea what the Bible Says; and, they don't take the Bible Literally, they create Made Up Metaphors; Remind you of Anyone you know?

Shame on Them;
befuddling those poor simple mason underlings like that. LOL!!!

Mason Tree Shake; Initiated!!!

Any Thoughts?

More From kay kay;


Scary Powers that Be.

The right hand Controller of the World; But don't take my word for it;


The Media and the News (and more) control your Minds America and other Select (Parts of the World); Wake Up!!!
No Man is Immune to it, not even Me; I still don't see the Whole Picture. Does anyone Know about this Subject?

One more thing, When the Atheist Scientists want to hit the Switch on the Time Machine; Don't let them Do it.
 
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MichaelCadry

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Dear MarkS,

I hope you won't mind Mark, but I gleaned this tidbit of info from an excerpt I posted to you in your thread. God made the angels when He made the stars, for the energy which makes the stars shine are numerous angels on each star. See Gen. 1:16. He made the stars/angels before man. I have heard that 'the stars are the warehouses of angels.' I can't remember where I read it. It could have been in the Pseudopigrapha. You can see that in Dan. 12:3, "and they that turn many to righteousness SHALL BE as the STARS forever and ever." I've known this for over 40 years now.

Thanks Mark!!

Praise The Lord Always And Forever!!!

Michael
 

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DFT_Dave said:
Barbarian said:
Selection is choice based on will and intelligence.*

Randomness does not produce order or integration, it does the opposite.

Sorry, you're wrong. Natural selection is directly observed. And random variation plus natural selection produces order. Would you like to test that fact?

Random variation? Do you mean variation made possible because of how God programmed the genome?*
 

MichaelCadry

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Well, Patrick, believers or not, once dead which we all will experience some day according to Mark 12:27, God is not a God of the dead but of the living. It means that no dead one will be with God. Unless you mean by being with God, the eternal rest of the grave.


Dear ben Masada,

Many of the dead are now living in spirit. God is a God of the living. Jesus is also living. Many of the saints rose to Heaven when Jesus went to heaven after His crucifixion. You know that Abraham and Moses are alive now in spirit and in Heaven.

God And Jesus Be With You!!

Michael

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MichaelCadry

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Dear 6days,

You tell 'im!! We're behind you all the way. God is the Ultimate Creator and Caretaker of the Earth and it's inhabitants.

God Keep You Strong In Your Countenance,

Michael
 

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Dear Mark,

Yes, that Mason is about in as much darkness as he can be. I've seen worse. Some people are CRAZY. Satan confuses them into believing all kinds of twisted imagery and nonsense. Now I guess you see how the media, TV, and movies, twists the minds of those who watch them all. Also watch out for music even. "I search for a God that I don't believe in!" Words to that effect. Isn't it ridiculous? And that song 'Lucifer' by the Rolling Stones, or a song to that effect. I don't know all of the titles and lyrics, but I do know what is going on and it is NOT GOOD! To all of you, watch what you tend to believe. Hey Mark, Wonderful Job!!

May God Help Your Candle To Shine Brightly,

Michael
 

patrick jane

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dating fossils

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Dear patrick jane,

The thing we're not agreeing on is that the dating of the fossils is in error. You see one starfish that looks just like one of our today, and it's fossilized, and they say it is 45 million years old, and it could be just 100 years old. The same way they tried to date the Shroud of Turin. Their dating methods have holes in them. Well, dude/dudette, I'm going to go have some leftover goodies, like turkey, etc.

Much Love Coming Your Way,

Michael

i agree. i spent a while believing carbon dating and archaelogists' ways of dating fossils and rocks or any form of matter. then i saw video discussing the inaccuracy. have you kent hovind ? i think i spelled it right, he is a creationist pastor in florida. very interesting video series on creation in The Bible.
 

The Barbarian

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Barbarian observes:
Sorry, you're wrong. Natural selection is directly observed. And random variation plus natural selection produces order. Would you like to test that fact?

Random variation? Do you mean variation made possible because of how God programmed the genome?

That's contrary to God's word. He says He created the Earth and the Earth brought forth life, as He intended. No programming necessary. He created a universe with rules that produced all the things He wanted in creation.

Why not just accept it His way?
 

MichaelCadry

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Barbarian observes:
Sorry, you're wrong. Natural selection is directly observed. And random variation plus natural selection produces order. Would you like to test that fact?

That's contrary to God's word. He says He created the Earth and the Earth brought forth life, as He intended. No programming necessary. He created a universe with rules that produced all the things He wanted in creation.

Why not just accept it His way?


Dear Barbarian,

If you want me to believe all of that, you're out of your mind! Are you trying to tell me that God didn't create the frog or dragonfly? God just let natural selection do it's thing? I could go on an on!

Gimme a break and dream on!!

Michael

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MichaelCadry

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i agree. i spent a while believing carbon dating and archaeologists' ways of dating fossils and rocks or any form of matter. then i saw video discussing the inaccuracy. have you heard of Kent Hovind ? i think i spelled it right, he is a creationist pastor in Florida. Very interesting video series on creation in The Bible.


Dear patrick jane,

I've heard his name before, but that's about it. I didn't know he was a creationist Pastor in Florida. Will probably hear of him soon or go investigate him when I have some time.

Thanks and God's Best For You,

Michael

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:)

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patrick jane

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thank you Michael, i'm still trying to figure out the smilies and colors and bold and stuff. God Bless you and yours, thank you for the warm welcome to tol
 

Mark SeaSigh

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Dear MarkS,

I hope you won't mind Mark, but I gleaned this tidbit of info from an excerpt I posted to you in your thread. God made the angels when He made the stars, for the energy which makes the stars shine are numerous angels on each star. See Gen. 1:16. He made the stars/angels before man. I have heard that 'the stars are the warehouses of angels.' I can't remember where I read it. It could have been in the Pseudopigrapha. You can see that in Dan. 12:3, "and they that turn many to righteousness SHALL BE as the STARS forever and ever." I've known this for over 40 years now.

Thanks Mark!!

Praise The Lord Always And Forever!!!

Michael

Remember that the Pseudopigrapha isn't totally true; that's the reason they were removed, after all.

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Good Bible Verses, Michael.
Kent Hovind ?

Yes. : D

He's got Evolution pretty well handled, but ask him about the Date of what the Last Tectonic Plate movement on mars was; and he's at a Loss. Of Course; so am I.

It's ok though, I learned so much from him, it was totally worth me viewing his full Six Episode Series. He goes into Dinosaurs and such, that's my favorite part.

Did you know that he was incarcerated for selling his Creationist Science Videos?
 
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