On this Thread, See Post #7186 re this Post!
January 12th, 2015, 09:30 PM;
Copy of another post re Modern Form Of Animals...Dinosaurs by MarkS.
See Post #447; Pg. 30
Quote: The Barbarian
Even a 6th grade science students knows that's stupid and contrary to evolutionary theory. Populations evolve, not individuals. And of course, chimps are evolved in a different direction than humans from a common ancestor. So they wouldn't evolve into us.
Quote: Michael
You are mistaken Barbarian. Individuals are part of their 'populations', so then they would evidently 'evolve' as you would say. You don't know what you are talking about at all, dude. Which animal/neanderthal/homo sapien are we descendants of, and why don't we see instances constantly of this phenomena and stages of this happening. Same question as with the chimp above. What don't we see many indeed right before our very eyes? Especially after one week, or year, or lifetime, or 7,000 years. Just leave it be dude! It doesn't fly!
Quote: The Barbarian
For one thing, too big. Another, no forests to speak of in ice age Europe. Depending on fruit for much of the year would have been impossible. You've confused orthogenesis (which rarely happens, if at all) with evolution as it is.
Quote: Michael
No, Bee, too big doesn't cut it. Neither does your lack of forests or fruit. They would just exist somewhere else!! Didn't God say to the animals to eat the fruit and vegetation that He had provided for them? Do you think He was playing a terrible trick on them all? Even if your premise even could apply to one animal, does this apply to all of the other created animals and humans?
Quote: The Barbarian
For example, in the past several thousand years, Tibetans have evolved a series of adaptations for living at high altitudes.
Quote: Michael
Oh, really Barbee, how do you know what the Tibetans have done in the past several thousands years? Were you there?? Was Darwin there? I'm not trusting your ways of dating objects or fossils anymore. You don't even KNOW if man was alive several thousand years ago, much less Tibetans. I don't care about your supposed predated truth. Don't you know that any adapting by the Tibetans was done by the Hands of God, whether is means changing a genomn, or DNA, or atoms, or whatever.
Quote: The Barbarian
It's "Does Mark dream up this dreck when he's toking, or is he really that stupid?"
Quote: Michael
Barbarian, these are facts that I brought up to Mark way before he brought them up to you. I've known them for a long time. For years now. Have you ever read the book I've written?? If you want to, let me know. Mark is very far from stupid. He's awesome. But what is your excuse? Why do you want to take the Creation story from God when you are a Catholic/Christian?? There are details of course, but that would take more time to explain. I can say that God can create a Universe and a host of Heaven, and stars that are seemingly old, and creatures also that 'seem' older than 7,000 years ago, just to test Adam's future 'descendants' on where their loyalty lies. Do you not know that God is still creating the Universe as we speak. Is our Universe newer here now, in our galaxy, or newer in another galaxy eons of light-years away. You can see how He created Adam as a man instead of a baby. And the animals as not babies, but older creatures. He created the chicken and rooster and when He created them, He made them able to have eggs. So if ever want to know what was created first, the chicken or the egg, you know now. You trouble your mind with things that are of this world instead of settling for the story of God's Creation. Whatever God wants you to know, He will tell you when we meet our maker, Barbarian. Otherwise, you are all quite possibly blaspheming Him unknowingly. And of MarkS, I have only very high admiration for him and 6days. They know the truth a lot more than you do. They are both very wise and I am in awe to be in their company.
Quote: The Barbarian
Like those lizards in the Adriatic that evolved a new digestive organ in a couple of decades?
Do you think God has a nose? Jesus says spirits don't have a body. And He says God is a spirit. Maybe you should find out what that "image" means.
Quote: Michael
You're going to have to give me more scientific facts instead of 'those lizards that "evolved" a new digestive organ, etc.' What lizards? What organ? It really does not matter to me and will not help you in this conversation anyway.
Does the Lord have a nose. Of course, He does. When He was down here on Earth, he had to breathe. And He did say, "He who hath seen Me, hath seen the Father." Yes, they are spirits, but they can come and go into their 'bodies' if necessary. I know a lot more about this subject, but you will have to hear it from God instead. It's quite personal.
Quote: The Barbarian
At various times in the past few million years, and in a way that you find objectionable. That's what keeps tripping you up, every time you get close to the issue.
Quote: Michael
That's all you have to say about all of the other animals and plants God created?? You are incredibly mistaken and your thoughts are on a confused ride away from God and the real truth. God could easily fool man into believing he was older than it might seem. I mean, He is God. And the Universe is still being built/created, just so much so that man thinks his premises are true. Man knows nothing except what God will have him know. That includes how to create a toaster, or an nuclear bomb, or an atom-smasher. Whatever!
Quote: The Barbarian
Can't blame you. You're between a rock and a hard place on this one.
Quote: Michael
No kidding.
Barbarian, don't give me such a lame ending to your post which is found lacking. You are the one between a rock and a hard place on this one...a real Catch-22. No kidding!! I don't have anything against you, and I do love you as a Christian brother. If that's not good enough for you, what am I supposed to do? Don't spread lies or conjecture about things of God that you don't know are false.
Michael
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