Congress Demands War in Ukraine!

drbrumley

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Congress Demands War in Ukraine!

Daniel McAdams

Just weeks after a European-brokered ceasefire greatly reduced the violence in Ukraine, the US House of Representatives today takes a big step toward re-igniting — and expanding — the bloody civil war.

A Resolution, “Calling on the President to provide Ukraine with military assistance to defend its sovereignty and territorial integrity,” stealthily made its way to the House Floor today without having been debated in the relevant House Committees and without even being given a bill number before appearing on the Floor!

Now titled H. Res. 163, the bill demands that President Obama send lethal military equipment to the US-backed government in Kiev and makes it clear that the weapons are to be used to take military action to return Crimea and parts of eastern Ukraine to Kiev’s rule.

Congress wants a war in Ukraine and will not settle for a ceasefire!

The real world effect of this Resolution must be made clear: The US Congress is giving Kiev the green light to begin a war with Russia, with the implicit guarantee of US backing. This is moral hazard on steroids and could well spark World War III.

The Resolution conveniently ignores that the current crisis in Ukraine was ignited by the US-backed coup which overthrew the elected government of Viktor Yanukovych. The secession of Crimea and eastern Ukraine were a reaction to the illegal coup engineered by US officials such as Victoria Nuland and Geoff Pyatt. Congress instead acts as if one morning the Russians woke up and decided to invade Crimea and eastern Ukraine.

There is no mention at all of US backing for the coup — or even that a coup took place!

Indeed, a read of the Resolution shows it is revisionism par excellence:


Whereas the Russian Federation under President Vladimir Putin has engaged in relentless political, economic, and military aggression to subvert the independence and violate the territorial integrity of Ukraine;


Whereas Russian aggression against Ukraine is but the most visible and recent manifestation of a revisionist Kremlin strategy to redraw international borders and impose its will on its neighbors, including NATO allies;

Shamefully, the resolution pins the blame for the thousands killed by Kiev’s shelling of civilian centers in eastern Ukraine on Russia:


Whereas this Russian aggression includes the establishment and control of violent separatist proxies in other areas of Ukraine, including arming them with lethal weapons and other materiel including tanks, artillery, and rockets that have enabled separatist militias to launch and sustain an insurrection that has resulted in over 6,000 dead, 15,000 wounded, and more than a million displaced persons;

The Resolution goes even further, explicitly calling for the US to support regime change in Russia itself:


Whereas the United States and its allies need a long-term strategy to expose and challenge Vladimir Putin’s corruption and repression at home and his aggression abroad;

“Expose and challenge” the elected Russian president at home.

During the Floor debate on the Resolution, Rep. Eliot Engel (D-NY) even compared Russian “action” in Ukraine to Hitler’s invasion of Czechoslovakia, demanding that this time the “Hitler” must be stopped before he goes further!

Not a single Member of Congress took the Floor to oppose this dangerous Resolution.

Passage of this Resolution should make it clear that the political leadership of the US will accept nothing short of war with Russia.
 

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Congress Demands War in Ukraine!

Daniel McAdams

Just weeks after a European-brokered ceasefire greatly reduced the violence in Ukraine, the US House of Representatives today takes a big step toward re-igniting — and expanding — the bloody civil war.

A Resolution, “Calling on the President to provide Ukraine with military assistance to defend its sovereignty and territorial integrity,” stealthily made its way to the House Floor today without having been debated in the relevant House Committees and without even being given a bill number before appearing on the Floor!

Now titled H. Res. 163, the bill demands that President Obama send lethal military equipment to the US-backed government in Kiev and makes it clear that the weapons are to be used to take military action to return Crimea and parts of eastern Ukraine to Kiev’s rule.

Congress wants a war in Ukraine and will not settle for a ceasefire!

The real world effect of this Resolution must be made clear: The US Congress is giving Kiev the green light to begin a war with Russia, with the implicit guarantee of US backing. This is moral hazard on steroids and could well spark World War III.

The Resolution conveniently ignores that the current crisis in Ukraine was ignited by the US-backed coup which overthrew the elected government of Viktor Yanukovych. The secession of Crimea and eastern Ukraine were a reaction to the illegal coup engineered by US officials such as Victoria Nuland and Geoff Pyatt. Congress instead acts as if one morning the Russians woke up and decided to invade Crimea and eastern Ukraine.

There is no mention at all of US backing for the coup — or even that a coup took place!

Indeed, a read of the Resolution shows it is revisionism par excellence:


Whereas the Russian Federation under President Vladimir Putin has engaged in relentless political, economic, and military aggression to subvert the independence and violate the territorial integrity of Ukraine;


Whereas Russian aggression against Ukraine is but the most visible and recent manifestation of a revisionist Kremlin strategy to redraw international borders and impose its will on its neighbors, including NATO allies;

Shamefully, the resolution pins the blame for the thousands killed by Kiev’s shelling of civilian centers in eastern Ukraine on Russia:


Whereas this Russian aggression includes the establishment and control of violent separatist proxies in other areas of Ukraine, including arming them with lethal weapons and other materiel including tanks, artillery, and rockets that have enabled separatist militias to launch and sustain an insurrection that has resulted in over 6,000 dead, 15,000 wounded, and more than a million displaced persons;

The Resolution goes even further, explicitly calling for the US to support regime change in Russia itself:


Whereas the United States and its allies need a long-term strategy to expose and challenge Vladimir Putin’s corruption and repression at home and his aggression abroad;

“Expose and challenge” the elected Russian president at home.

During the Floor debate on the Resolution, Rep. Eliot Engel (D-NY) even compared Russian “action” in Ukraine to Hitler’s invasion of Czechoslovakia, demanding that this time the “Hitler” must be stopped before he goes further!

Not a single Member of Congress took the Floor to oppose this dangerous Resolution.

Passage of this Resolution should make it clear that the political leadership of the US will accept nothing short of war with Russia.

Every word....it's what I have been saying. the bankers want this.
 

drbrumley

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Nigel Farage on Ukraine crises.

Preparations for the European Council meeting (19-20 March 2015) (debate)


Nigel Farage, on behalf of the EFDD Group . – Mr President, I have been wondering why David Cameron has been slashing our armed forces, will not commit to 2% and is happy for us not to be able to defend our islands. I think Mr Juncker has given us the answer. We are going to do it at an EU level. We are going to have a European army.

When I raised this last year with the Deputy Prime Minister, Liberal Democrat Nick Clegg, he said it was a ‘dangerous fantasy’ to even talk about an EU army. I hope every Liberal Democrat voter has heard Mr Verhofstadt today, the leader of the European Liberals, crying out for militarisation at an EU level. Of course, the truth is that it is already happening. We already have a European Defence Agency; we already have EU battle groups on active service all over the world; we already have an EU navy active against the Somali pirates; and who can forget Eurocorps here in Strasbourg last year virtually goose-stepping that ghastly flag round the courtyard outside? Article 28 of the Lisbon Treaty provides for all of this. Tony Blair was right when he said the European Union is not a project about peace, it is a project about power.

I think Mr Juncker is trying to seize on an opportunity. We ourselves in the European Union provoked the conflict through our territorial expansionism in Ukraine. We poked the Russian bear with a stick and, unsurprisingly, Putin reacted, and this is now to be used as an opportunity to build a European army.

Mr Verhofstadt, I know that by heckling you increase your hits on YouTube because, otherwise, nobody in Europe wants to listen to you. I think you really ought to let me speak.

Mr President, we certainly are democrats; we never shouted you down, but you always try to shout us down. The point I was making is this, the opportunity is being seized and Mr Juncker said we must convey to Russia that we are serious. Who do you think you are kidding, Mr Juncker?

(Laughter from the EFDD Group)

We do not want any part of an EU army, and I doubt the rest of the peoples of Europe do either.

(The speaker agreed to take a blue-card question under Rule 162(8))

blue-card answer . – We, through our territorial ambitions, provoked the overthrow of an albeit corrupt, but democratically elected, leader in Ukraine. We have provoked this crisis. Now the question you ask is ‘What do we do from here?’

I was in this Chamber at the time when Libya was attacked. I heard the Liberals and the Greens screaming, frothing at the mouth, for us to bomb Libya: for us to become militarily involved because we believed that would make things better. My view, sir, is that if you look at Afghanistan, if you look at Iraq, if you look at Libya, and if you look at the attempt to back the rebels in Syria – many of whom have now morphed into ISIS – you will see that our recent foreign military interventions have made things worse, not better.
 

journey

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I will be praying that this does not lead to yet another war. Our armed services are in desperate need of a break.
 

Daniel1611

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We need war in Ukraine. We're going though the alphabet this century and fighting a war with a different country for each letter of the alphabet. We started with Afghanistan. We have some sort of warfare in Yemen. We got all the way to "Y" and we must've skipped the letter "U" We'll jump on over to Ukraine and then get to Zimbabwe to finish up before the decade is out.
 
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