God's Truth
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He didn't miss the confusion that you preach. He is just as confused as you are.
He missed that we actually have to obey to be saved, just as you miss that.
Christian Ministers to Use 'Magic Mushrooms' for 'Religious Experience' for A Study
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He didn't miss the confusion that you preach. He is just as confused as you are.
He missed that we actually have to obey to be saved, just as you miss that.
God's Truth
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Anyone confused over all this confusion?
You want God's Truth but are confused?
All you have to do is search for God WITH ALL YOUR HEART and you will find Him.
How do you search for God?
You search for God by looking for Jesus' teachings.
How do you find God?
You find God by doing what Jesus teaches.
That is how you search for God with all your heart and find Him.
You want God's Truth but are confused?
All you have to do is search for God WITH ALL YOUR HEART and you will find Him.
How do you search for God?
You search for God by looking for Jesus' teachings.
How do you find God?
You find God by doing what Jesus teaches.
That is how you search for God with all your heart and find Him.
Greg Jennings
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Substances like psilocybin (spelling?) create a feeling in the user that can be sometimes described as feeling connected to a higher power, whether that be God or simply nature itself. Studies have shown that some of these substances produce the same patterns in brain scans that we see in people that have had a strong religious experience and are thinking back on it.
It might be worth entertaining the idea that if God is out there, certain substances might make Him easier to perceive.
God's Truth
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Lon is a man of God... passionate for the Souls of His Creations.
Dust off dry bones!
One sentance is correct... the other is puffed up and deceitful... go and learn what "While we were yet sinners" means... doofenburgner!
I'm not down with your headship stuff... but I tremendously respect your overall message here.
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Greg... the real reason scientists like this study is because they want to relegate belief to a chemical imagination in something that doesn't exist. It is the idea that God is a delusion of the chemical experience. That's the heart of studies like such.
Human respect doesn't save. Do as you like. At current.. I still think you're okay. No respect required... on your part.
Angels inferrence was clear. You can focus on her calling me a liar... but the quote to the quote... using Revelation... in reference to my friends... is clear.
That's the point and your purposefully ignoring it.
I took lots of LSD, peyote, psilocybin, mescaline, hashish and cannabis and none of them allowed me to perceive the true GOD, actually led me to false gods.
The perception of the true GOD began to appear when I, with all honesty, began to enquire who Jesus Christ really is, what the cross is about and began to seek Him through the ministry of the Apostle Paul, especially 1Corinthians 1 and 2.
Here's a couple of online articles of interest to the subject:
http://www.kirasalak.com/Peru.html
https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?p=293083
The first link is to an article that was originally published in National Geographic. The second is an excerpt from a book on the subject.
http://www.kirasalak.com/Peru.html
https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?p=293083
The first link is to an article that was originally published in National Geographic. The second is an excerpt from a book on the subject.
Lon
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Headship stuff?
glorydaz
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No, I'm not purposefully ignoring anything. I just know Angel better than you do. She understands salvation by grace through faith, and your claims that her posts say otherwise are wrong.
You're overly emotional here because of your friends. So let's just say a believer is unrepentant over some particular wrong doing in their life. That hardly comes close to saying they are damned to hell. As Lon pointed out, it's where the chastening of the Lord would come into the picture. Angel never once claimed what you accused her of claiming....that they were doomed to hell. Which was why she told you that you were lying about her. You were. You were assuming she equated "unrepentant" with hell bound.
You're unrepentant of your false accusations against Angel. You'd do well to turn from them. You'd do well to change your mind.
That you remain unrepentant, does that mean you are doomed to hell?
Eagles Wings
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Consistent
glorydaz
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And the worker bee comes buzzing in to gather all those who would try to be saved apart from faith. :nono:
Do you remember who or what prompted you to do that?
Lon
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I think the question being addressed is "Can you clean yourself up to please God or receive Salvation?" Then "Does that make you presentable to God?" *(third question to follow).
For me 1) :idunno: It seems most who conquer drugs do so with help. Some are able to do so on their own, others, the moment they become Christians, the desire is gone. At that point, I think those who instantly quit, were looking for Him all along, and so, having found Him, it is a relatively easy quit for them. My uncle was very addicted, so much so that he could not think, logic, or reason. His faith, later in life, was simply "Lon, pray for me!" He knew he needed deliverance, both in this life and the next. To me Romans 10:13 was his call and answer. As far as drugs, he tried to quit often but he was in mental hospitals his whole life. He was a beautiful man with a horrible addiction.
One might say "If he loved God more, and drugs less" and they might say it of all of us too, whenever we are fallen into something. I have a friend who was promiscuous and very troubled. I mentioned to him that I'd trade, because even as a self-interest, no harm was intended. On the other hand, my 'piety' in judgment, and my unchecked anger, habitually have harmed so many more, and more deeply. I'm not a cleaner rat
2) Does it make me presentable? No, rather He alone makes me presentable else I'd not need Him ever making intercession on my behalf. Hebrews 7:25 Romans 8:34 and Romans 11:6 is huge.
* "So how do we live?" question # 3 -->
1 Corinthians 10:23 What is unprofitable is not counted. Romans 4:8 2 Corinthians 5:19. It may have us removed from church folks, especially if we disobediently and without love are harming others around us. By Ephesians 5:15 then, not as unwise, but as wise and taking earthy responsibility for our actions, AND as Christians, trying to do better as well as make eternal differences in God's hands. If we belong to Him, He already has things in mind Ephesians 2:10 for His glory.
For inspection and offered in humility and His grace, -Lon
glorydaz
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I think the question being addressed is "Can you clean yourself up to please God or receive Salvation?" Then "Does that make you presentable to God?" *(third question to follow).
For me 1) :idunno: It seems most who conquer drugs do so with help. Some are able to do so on their own, others, the moment they become Christians, the desire is gone. At that point, I think those who instantly quit, were looking for Him all along, and so, having found Him, it is a relatively easy quit for them. My uncle was very addicted, so much so that he could not think, logic, or reason. His faith, later in life, was simply "Lon, pray for me!" He knew he needed deliverance, both in this life and the next. To me Romans 10:13 was his call and answer. As far as drugs, he tried to quit often but he was in mental hospitals his whole life. He was a beautiful man with a horrible addiction.
One might say "If he loved God more, and drugs less" and they might say it of all of us too, whenever we are fallen into something. I have a friend who was promiscuous and very troubled. I mentioned to him that I'd trade, because even as a self-interest, no harm was intended. On the other hand, my 'piety' in judgment, and my unchecked anger, habitually have harmed so many more, and more deeply. I'm not a cleaner rat
2) Does it make me presentable? No, rather He alone makes me presentable else I'd not need Him ever making intercession on my behalf. Hebrews 7:25 Romans 8:34 and Romans 11:6 is huge.
* "So how do we live?" question # 3 -->
1 Corinthians 10:23 What is unprofitable is not counted. Romans 4:8 2 Corinthians 5:19. It may have us removed from church folks, especially if we disobediently and without love are harming others around us. By Ephesians 5:15 then, not as unwise, but as wise and taking earthy responsibility for our actions, AND as Christians, trying to do better as well as make eternal differences in God's hands. If we belong to Him, He already has things in mind Ephesians 2:10 for His glory.
For inspection and offered in humility and His grace, -Lon
That's not the question I'm addessing. In fact, it's far from it.
Let me read it again and see if I see anything about being falsely accused......