CHOSEN BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD

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DougE

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Matthew 25:34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

Matthew 25 above is dealing with the judgment of the Gentile nations that will enter the earthly Davidic kingdom promised Israel. These nations will enter the kingdom along with the believing remnant of Israel. The promised kingdom, which both the nations and the remnant will enter, was purposed from the foundation of the world.

Ephesians 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

God purposed to save the body of Christ by the gospel of Christ, from before the foundation of the world; to bless us in heavenly places, to be holy and blameless before him in love.

Therefore, seeing that there is a difference between before and from, we can determine that God has made a distinction between believing Israel and the church, the body of Christ. One is to have determined to save (by the gospel of the grace of God) the body of Christ before the foundation of the world to a position in heavenly places; the other is to save the remnant of Israel (by the gospel of the kingdom) to enter the prophetic Davidic kingdom on earth, from the foundation of the world.
 
beloved57

beloved57

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Wrong information. The Body of Christ. is Israel and there's no difference between before the foundation of the world and from the foundation of the world
 
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beloved57 said:
Wrong information. The Body of Christ. is Israel and there's no difference between before the foundation of the world and from the foundation of the world
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That is replacement theology which is heresy. You need to repent of your sinful nature.
 
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DAN P

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beloved57 said:
Wrong information. The Body of Christ. is Israel and there's no difference between before the foundation of the world and from the foundation of the world
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Hi and in Eph 1:4 the Greek word HE HATH CHOSEN / EKLEGOMAI is in the PAST TENSE , called the AORIST TENSE and Paul meansmthat is has already HAPPENED .

HIM / AUTOS is in the DATIVE CASE and is the DIRECT OBJECT of being chosen .

BEFORE /APO means , JUST before the foundation of the world .

In the BODY OF CHRIST there are NO JEWS or GREEK , Gal 3;28 .

Then in Col 3:11 There are NO Greek or JEWS , Col 3:11 .

You seem to have a MESS on your hands .

dan p
 
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DAN P said:
Hi and in Eph 1:4 the Greek word HE HATH CHOSEN / EKLEGOMAI is in the PAST TENSE , called the AORIST TENSE and Paul meansmthat is has already HAPPENED .

HIM / AUTOS is in the DATIVE CASE and is the DIRECT OBJECT of being chosen .

BEFORE /APO means , JUST before the foundation of the world .

In the BODY OF CHRIST there are NO JEWS or GREEK , Gal 3;28 .

Then in Col 3:11 There are NO Greek or JEWS , Col 3:11 .

You seem to have a MESS on your hands .

dan p
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No male or female either...hmmm...

been hearing a lot about other genders, fluid, and trans...is this what's in yours?

would make sense as they hate His Law too...claim it's NOT for them either or something abolished...or something...
 
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DAN P

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clefty said:
No male or female either...hmmm...

been hearing a lot about other genders, fluid, and trans...is this what's in yours?

would make sense as they hate His Law too...claim it's NOT for them either or something abolished...or something...
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Hi and that is what Gal 3:28 says , THERE CANNOT BE / ENI is in the Greek PRESENT TENSE which means CONTINUOUS ACTION of there cannot be Jew nor Greek , , there cannot be , SLAVE nor FREE , , THERE CANNOT BE / ENI , MALE and FEMALE , FOR / ESTE All one in Christ Jesus .

It means what it says ., does it not ?

dan p
 
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clefty

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DAN P said:
Hi and that is what Gal 3:28 says , THERE CANNOT BE / ENI is in the Greek PRESENT TENSE which means CONTINUOUS ACTION of there cannot be Jew nor Greek , , there cannot be , SLAVE nor FREE , , THERE CANNOT BE / ENI , MALE and FEMALE , FOR / ESTE All one in Christ Jesus .

It means what it says ., does it not ?

dan p
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Sure

is why I said what I did...

I mean what does He have against male and females to keep them out?
 
beloved57

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DAN P said:
Hi and in Eph 1:4 the Greek word HE HATH CHOSEN / EKLEGOMAI is in the PAST TENSE , called the AORIST TENSE and Paul meansmthat is has already HAPPENED .

HIM / AUTOS is in the DATIVE CASE and is the DIRECT OBJECT of being chosen .

BEFORE /APO means , JUST before the foundation of the world .

In the BODY OF CHRIST there are NO JEWS or GREEK , Gal 3;28 .

Then in Col 3:11 There are NO Greek or JEWS , Col 3:11 .

You seem to have a MESS on your hands .

dan p
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There's all nationalities in the Body of CHRIST
 
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DAN P

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beloved57 said:
There's all nationalities in the Body of CHRIST
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Hi and in 2 Cor 5:17 says that we are a NEW CREATION , so what NATIONALITY will you be CALLED a MILQUETOAST ?

In Gal 6:15 that all who are in Christ , NEITHER , Circumcision is of any FORCE , nor Uncircumcision , But a NEW CREATION .

This lets OUT , Jews and Gentiles .

dan p
 
beloved57

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DAN P said:
Hi and in 2 Cor 5:17 says that we are a NEW CREATION , so what NATIONALITY will you be CALLED a MILQUETOAST ?

In Gal 6:15 that all who are in Christ , NEITHER , Circumcision is of any FORCE , nor Uncircumcision , But a NEW CREATION .

This lets OUT , Jews and Gentiles .

dan p
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It's a shame you don't believe that people of all nationalities make up the body of Christ.

Rev 5:9

9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
 
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DAN P

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beloved57 said:
It's a shame you don't believe that people of all nationalities make up the body of Christ.

Rev 5:9

9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
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Hi and so IF you look up the Greek word in where Gal 3:28 begins , There is neither JEW nor GREEK , check out the Greek means in this verse .

The Jews will inherit as the 12 tribes and our INHERITANCE is in heaven as Eph 1:11 says .

dan p
 
beloved57

beloved57

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DAN P said:
Hi and so IF you look up the Greek word in where Gal 3:28 begins , There is neither JEW nor GREEK , check out the Greek means in this verse .

The Jews will inherit as the 12 tribes and our INHERITANCE is in heaven as Eph 1:11 says .

dan p
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So what does Rev 5:9 say ? What ethnicity are they?
 
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DAN P

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beloved57 said:
So what does Rev 5:9 say ? What ethnicity are they?
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COMING / PAROUSIA back for the BODY OF CHRIST and all should know their is NO Greek word for RAPTURE !

1 Cor 15:49 we will bear the IMAGE of the HEAVENLY ONE , CHRIST and that new image will not be JEWISH or GENTILE .

dan p
 
beloved57

beloved57

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DAN P said:
COMING / PAROUSIA back for the BODY OF CHRIST and all should know their is NO Greek word for RAPTURE !

1 Cor 15:49 we will bear the IMAGE of the HEAVENLY ONE , CHRIST and that new image will not be JEWISH or GENTILE .

dan p
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What ethnicity are they? Rev 5:9
 
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