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That does refer to the body of Christ, whereas the other does not.
ECT Can you be a Christian and not go to church?
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genuineoriginal
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No I didn't.
Roman Catholic is a denomination of Christianity, it is not "the church".
Thank you for the information.
There is no need to "perfectly" keep "all of them" (commandments).
That is the mistake that comes from thinking like the Pharisees.
There is only need to keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.
As Jesus stated, His yoke yoke is easy, and His burden is light.
Keeping the commandments of God the way Jesus taught them is easy and is not a heavy burden like the one the Pharisees (and you in this post) try to make it.
Yes, that is why we never need a Pope to be the head of the church the way the Roman Catholic denomination does.
Going to church is an activity done by many people with faith as well as many people without faith.
| Churchgoing is good for you (even if you don’t believe in God) Is it a matter of the social support you get, the uplift from the liturgy, simple grace, the prohibitions on stuff like self-harm or the volunteering that churchy people do? A psychiatrist friend, Professor Patricia Casey, thinks being part of a church community is qualitatively different from say, football club membership, but we don’t really know. Anyway, if it’s the social connections you get from going to church that helps, atheist church attenders should be doing just fine. |
genuineoriginal
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| James, brother of Jesus The Jerusalem Church was an early Christian community located in Jerusalem, of which James and Peter were leaders. Paul was affiliated with this community, and took his central kerygma, as described in Corinthians 1:15, from this community. According to Eusebius, the Jerusalem church escaped to Pella during the siege of Jerusalem by the future Emperor Titus in 70 and afterwards returned, having a further series of Jewish bishops until the Bar Kokhba revolt in 130. Following the second destruction of Jerusalem and the rebuilding of the city as Aelia Capitolina, subsequent bishops were Greeks. James the Just was "from an early date with Peter a leader of the Church at Jerusalem and from the time when Peter left Jerusalem after Herod Agrippa's attempt to kill him, James appears as the principal authority who presided at Council of Jerusalem." The epistles of Paul, and the later chapters of the Acts of the Apostles, portray James as an important figure in the Christian community of Jerusalem. When Paul arrives in Jerusalem to deliver the money he raised for the faithful there, it is to James that he speaks, and it is James who insists that Paul ritually cleanse himself at Herod's Temple to prove his faith and deny rumors of teaching rebellion against the Torah (Acts 21:18ff). Paul describes James as being one of the persons to whom the risen Christ showed himself, and in Galatians 2:9, Paul lists James with Cephas (better known as Peter) and John the Apostle as the three "pillars" of the Church. |
genuineoriginal
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No, it didn't.
The church which is His (Jesus') body is the exact same church that Saul was persecuting until he had the Damascus Road experience and then joined the church.
Right Divider
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No, it isn't.
Jerry Shugart
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So you finally admit that the words "in Christ" means the Body of Christ.
And that is exactly what we read here:
"So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another" (Ro.12:5).
Let's look at the following verse again:
"Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new" (2 Cor.5:17).
So we can understand that Paul is saying that IF ANYONE IS IN CHRIST then he is in the Body of Christ.
So we can know that when Paul speaks about those "in Christ" before him he is saying that there were others in the Body of Christ before he was.
So are you now going to argue that even though others were described as being "in Christ" before Paul that they were not in the Body of Christ despite the fact that Paul said that IF ANYONE is in Christ he is in the Body of Christ?
Jerry Shugart
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You are wrong again:
"And was unknown by face unto the churches of Judaea which were in Christ: But they had heard only, That he which persecuted us in times past now preacheth the faith which once he destroyed" (Gal.1:22-23).
The words "in Christ" refer to being in the Body of Christ:
"So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another" (Ro.12:5).
Right Divider
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When the CONTEXT dictates, yes.
You're a very poor dispensationalist. Always blurring and blending.
Right Divider
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Nope... the church in Jerusalem was in Christ long before God revealed his NEW creation.
genuineoriginal
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Saul was given a new name and joined the very church he was persecuting: the church which is the body of Christ.
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Not a chance.
Paul was NOT given a new name, though many silly people say that. But the scripture says that Saul was ALSO CALLED PAUL.
Acts 13:9 (AKJV/PCE)
(13:9) Then Saul, (who also [is called] Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him,
There is no name CHANGE there.
marhig
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Yes you can, you can pray to God from the closet of your heart, and the church is not the building but the people, Jesus gathered people together and taught on mountains, by rivers, on hillsides and in houses. He said where two or three are gathered together there I will be in the midst. Two gathered together can be you and the Holy Spirit, where the Spirit is Christ is. We don't need to go to church.
We have house meetings, like they did in the Bible.
genuineoriginal
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From the time of the stoning of Stephen (34 CE) until Saul and Barnabas went to the isle of Paphos (46 CE) he is only known as Saul.
There were 12 years from the time we first hear about Saul until we hear that Saul is also called Paul.
It is a new name.
genuineoriginal
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Congratulations for doing it right.
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He always had both names. That is why the scripture says that he was ALSO CALLED Paul.
Paul was a Roman and an Israelite.
It is very hard to find a healthy church, that much is true. If you are in an unhealthy church, then you have to leave. The crux of the matter is that you are your own judge as to what is healthy and what is not. I was raised Catholic. I left that church because I could not square what they taught with what is taught in the Bible. I am the exception to a large group of people that believe the RCC is the one, the only, the TRUE church.
Are there better options? Strictly speaking, whenever tow or three are gathered in His name, then He is there with them. So that means that your coffee clutch that meets to read and discuss the Bible becomes a church.
Rosenritter
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You wouldn't have access to the people that aren't at that home service.
genuineoriginal
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How can Christianity be unified if every Christian does what ever they think is right?
Deuteronomy 12:8 8 Ye shall not do after all the things that we do here this day, every man whatsoever is right in his own eyes. |
genuineoriginal
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Access to do what?
Rosenritter
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If their head is Christ and they are ruled by love then yes, they are unified. Lack of unity happens when we are not led by Christ and ruled by love.