Calvinism: You Must Already be Saved to Get Saved?

[Robert Pate]

Sin is a transgression of God's law.

If you transgress the law just one time, that makes you a sinner. Adam and Eve only sinned once. Repentance and confession of sins does not change the fact that you have violated God's Holy Law and are a sinner.

 

[Nanja]

Sin is a transgression of God's law.

If you transgress the law just one time, that makes you a sinner. Adam and Eve only sinned once. Repentance and confession of sins does not change the fact that you have violated God's Holy Law and are a sinner.

But the sinners Christ Lived and Died for He makes them Righteous!

Rom. 5:19
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

Ps. 32:1-2
1 Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.

2 Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.

 

[Robert Pate]

But the sinners Christ Lived and Died for He makes them Righteous!

Rom. 5:19
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

Ps. 32:1-2
1 Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.

2 Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.

Only those that are justified by the doing and the dying of Jesus are considered by God to be righteous. To be justified by Christ means that God has to see you "In Christ". I am afraid that leaves you out. Instead of embracing Christ and his Gospel, you have embraced the doctrine of a heretic.

 

[beloved57]

Only those that are justified by the doing and the dying of Jesus are considered by God to be righteous. To be justified by Christ means that God has to see you "In Christ". I am afraid that leaves you out. Instead of embracing Christ and his Gospel, you have embraced the doctrine of a heretic.

You teach that sinners Christ died for are still lost t

 

[Robert Pate]

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The reason that you are going to hell is because of your rejection of Christ and his Gospel.

 

[beloved57]

The reason that you are going to hell is because of your rejection of Christ and his Gospel.

You deprive Christ Blood of its Saving Power, since you teach many for whom He shed it for are still lost!

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[Robert Pate]

You deprive Christ Blood of its Saving Power, since you teach many for whom He shed it for are still lost!

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The reason that there is a hell is for Christ rejecters like yourself.

 

[Truster]

The reason that there is a hell is for Christ rejecters like yourself.

Ask him if he was brought up as a Roman :vomit: catlick?

 

[beloved57]

The reason that there is a hell is for Christ rejecters like yourself.

You teach that sinners Christ died for are going to hell, lost. So you don't believe that Christ death alone saved sinners from hell.

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[Robert Pate]

You teach that sinners Christ died for are going to hell, lost. So you don't believe that Christ death alone saved sinners from hell.

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Jesus saves and he saves to the uttermost, Hebrews 7:25.

But nothing, absolutely nothing is yours until it is received by faith, John 1:12. So far you have nothing.

 

[beloved57]

Jesus saves and he saves to the uttermost, Hebrews 7:25.

But nothing, absolutely nothing is yours until it is received by faith, John 1:12. So far you have nothing.

You teach that sinners Christ died for are still lost! That's a denial that Christ Saves

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[Robert Pate]

You teach that sinners Christ died for are still lost! That's a denial that Christ Saves

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Salvation has been provided for everyone, Hebrews 2:9. Unfortunately there are some like yourself that reject it.

 

[beloved57]

Salvation has been provided for everyone, Hebrews 2:9. Unfortunately there are some like yourself that reject it.

You teach that Christ death didn't save sinners He died for! That's unbelief and denial of Christ!

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[Robert Pate]

You teach that Christ death didn't save sinners He died for! That's unbelief and denial of Christ!

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All sin has been atoned for. This means that Jesus is Lord.

"Who being the brightness of HIS glory and the express image of his person, and upholding ALL THINGS by the word of HIS power, when he by himself PURGED OUR SINS, sat down on the RIGHT HAND of the Majesty on high" Hebrews 1:3.

 

[beloved57]

All sin has been atoned for. This means that Jesus is Lord.

"Who being the brightness of HIS glory and the express image of his person, and upholding ALL THINGS by the word of HIS power, when he by himself PURGED OUR SINS, sat down on the RIGHT HAND of the Majesty on high" Hebrews 1:3.

You dont believe the atonement of Christ, His death saved all for whom He died !

 

[Robert Pate]

You dont believe the atonement of Christ, His death saved all for whom He died !

And he victoriously atoned for the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2.

 

[beloved57]

And he victoriously atoned for the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2.

You teach that sinners Christ died for and reconciled to God are still lost!

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[Robert Pate]

You teach that sinners Christ died for and reconciled to God are still lost!

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Calvinism is a kind of dumb religion. There is nothing about it that makes sense.

 

[beloved57]

Calvinism is a kind of dumb religion. There is nothing about it that makes sense.

Pateism is a dumb religion, it doesn't believe the Blood of Christ redeemed sinners it was shed for.

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[Robert Pate]

Pateism is a dumb religion, it doesn't believe the Blood of Christ redeemed sinners it was shed for.

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The bus came by that said, "Salvation by Grace Through Faith" You didn't get on it. Instead you got on the bus that said, "Calvinism: the Road to Hell" You can still get off at the next stop.