Are you Going to Heaven?

aCultureWarrior

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If, like you, he (the unrepentant homosexual who believes in cheap grace and therefore won't 'divorce' his 'husband') believes that he is saved by his behavior, then he will join you in hell
I'll be going to Heaven because I acknowledge that it takes faith along with good works to be a follower of Christ. The unrepentant homosexual who is 'married' to another male (for 30 years, that's a long time in homosexual years, as most of them die around the age of 45), takes Jesus for granted thinking that His sacrifice on the cross allows him to go on proudly sinning.
 

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I'll be going to Heaven because I acknowledge that it takes faith along with good works to be a follower of Christ.
Rom 4:1-5 KJV What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? (2) For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. (3) For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. (4) Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. (5) But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
 

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I have no idea what this means.
His insanity includes a delusional obsession with a poster here who goes by the name of Wizard of Oz aka WoO. I don't remember where the "Aaron" came from, always seemed more than a little gay to me. WoO made the mistake of sharing a personal anecdote of a time before he accepted Christ when he was a college student living a wild lifestyle and had the opportunity to engage in homosexual sex.
For whatever reason ACW often likes to claim that other posters that he's railing against are WoO using a different user name.
 

OZOS

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His insanity includes a delusional obsession with a poster here who goes by the name of Wizard of Oz aka WoO. I don't remember where the "Aaron" came from, always seemed more than a little gay to me. WoO made the mistake of sharing a personal anecdote of a time before he accepted Christ when he was a college student living a wild lifestyle and had the opportunity to engage in homosexual sex.
For whatever reason ACW often likes to claim that other posters that he's railing against are WoO using a different user name.
Apparently, homosexuals rent space in his head.
 

aCultureWarrior

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His insanity includes a delusional obsession with a poster here who goes by the name of Wizard of Oz aka WoO. I don't remember where the "Aaron" came from, always seemed more than a little gay to me. WoO made the mistake of sharing a personal anecdote of a time before he accepted Christ when he was a college student living a wild lifestyle and had the opportunity to engage in homosexual sex.
For whatever reason ACW often likes to claim that other posters that he's railing against are WoO using a different user name.
LOL, actually that was musterion who told that story, but thanks for confirming my suspicions about numerous sock puppet accounts.
 

aCultureWarrior

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A page or two ago Ozos posted from Scripture that those who engage in homosexuality are worthy of death. Why would God allow people into Heaven who haven't changed their mind, heart and actions (repented) if here on earth they are worthy of death?

God also created laws for mankind here on earth regarding peoples behavior so that there wouldn't be total chaos. Laws against murder, sexual sins, stealing, etc., some offenses punished more seriously than others. God also instructs parents to raise their children to fear God and to engage in Godly behavior. Why would God hold such high standards for His creation here on earth, but lower His standards in Heaven?

After you answer post 567, you can attempt to tackle these questions Ozos.
 

OZOS

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A page or two ago Ozos posted from Scripture that those who engage in homosexuality are worthy of death. Why would God allow people into Heaven who haven't changed their mind, heart and actions (repented) if here on earth they are worthy of death?

God also created laws for mankind here on earth regarding peoples behavior so that there wouldn't be total chaos. Laws against murder, sexual sins, stealing, etc., some offenses punished more seriously than others. God also instructs parents to raise their children to fear God and to engage in Godly behavior. Why would God hold such high standards for His creation here on earth, but lower His standards in Heaven?

After you answer post 567, you can attempt to tackle these questions Ozos.
God "allows" in heaven those who believe the gospel (you never have). No one will be engaging in homosexual acts in heaven, but you might be someone's girlfriend in hell.

You can continue redefining repentance for salvation all you want, but you are still wrong.
 

OZOS

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You had mentioned in an earlier post that repentance is a requirement for salvation, but only remorse (sorrow).
I never said that about "remorse" (sorrow). In fact, I said that is a false repentance, the same repentance that Judas and you have chosen. You are a liar.
Why would a person have remorse for committing a sinful act and not have the desire to change?
I never suggested any such thing, you are a false witness.

This is what I said...
You preach the same kind of repentance that the apostle Paul said was a false repentance.

"Now I rejoice, not that you were made sorry, but that your sorrow led to repentance. For you were made sorry in a godly manner, that you might suffer loss from us in nothing. For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation, not to be regretted; but the sorrow of the world produces death."

Judas "turned away from sin" feeling sorrow for what he had done, and then he went and killed himself, because no man can justify himself through his behavior.

"Then Judas, His betrayer, seeing that He had been condemned, was remorseful and brought back the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, saying, “I have sinned by betraying innocent blood.” And they said, “What is that to us? You see to it!” Then he threw down the pieces of silver in the temple and departed, and went and hanged himself."

Judas attempted to repent from his sin, but that is a false repentance, the same repentance you preach. The only true repentance was exhibited by the thief on the cross, who could do nothing about his sin, so he turned (repented) and believed in the One who did everything about sin.

YOU have never done this. You are a Judas.
 

aCultureWarrior

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aCultureWarrior said:


A page or two ago Ozos posted from Scripture that those who engage in homosexuality are worthy of death. Why would God allow people into Heaven who haven't changed their mind, heart and actions (repented) if here on earth they are worthy of death?

God also created laws for mankind here on earth regarding peoples behavior so that there wouldn't be total chaos. Laws against murder, sexual sins, stealing, etc., some offenses punished more seriously than others. God also instructs parents to raise their children to fear God and to engage in Godly behavior. Why would God hold such high standards for His creation here on earth, but lower His standards in Heaven?

After you answer post 567, you can attempt to tackle these questions Ozos.
God "allows" in heaven those who believe the gospel (you never have).
Of course when you cheap grace theologists say "the gospel", it only involves saying the right words. The problem is, God knows what's in your heart and if you keep mocking Him by proudly doing things that He abhors, you'll spend eternity in the place Ron and Rand Paul are going.


No one will be engaging in homosexual acts in heaven, but you might be someone's girlfriend in hell.
Of course they won't, because they have to repent (a change of mind, heart and actions) before they are allowed in Heaven.
You can continue redefining repentance for salvation all you want, but you are still wrong.
As I recall your definition of repentance is a change of mind? Where did you get that from, as I'd love to see your source.
 

aCultureWarrior

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I never said that about "remorse" (sorrow). In fact, I said that is a false repentance, the same repentance that Judas and you have chosen. You are a liar.

I never suggested any such thing, you are a false witness.

This is what I said...
Judas attempted to repent from his sin, but that is a false repentance, the same repentance you preach. The only true repentance was exhibited by the thief on the cross, who could do nothing about his sin, so he turned (repented) and believed in the One who did everything about sin.
And I told you that Judas didn't go through the entire act of repentance:. had Judas had faith that Jesus Christ would forgive him, along with the actions that he took that are necessary for that forgiveness, he would have spent eternity with God.

Regarding the thief on the cross: I don't believe that you answered my question as to the expectations Jesus would have of that man if he were given a reprieval and allowed to walk free. Would Jesus had allowed that man into Heaven if he unapologetically continued to steal?
LOL, you've already allowed a unrepentant homosexual who wouldn't divorce his 'husband" into Heaven, let's see if you practice equal opportunity amongst unrepentant sinners and do the same thing with a thief.
 

OZOS

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Do you seriously think that repeating the same lies over and over will somehow justify your obsession with trying to convince others?

You obviously suffer from some serious mental issues.
 

aCultureWarrior

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Do you seriously think that repeating the same lies over and over will somehow justify your obsession with trying to convince others?

You obviously suffer from some serious mental issues.
I have to hand it to you libertarians, you do know your limitations when it comes to debate.
 

OZOS

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I have to hand it to you libertarians, you do know your limitations when it comes to debate.
There is no debating a liar and someone who obviously has severe mental issues. Again, I am not a "liberatarian", nor have I ever been. Yet, I doubt that your lies will cease.
 

aCultureWarrior

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There is no debating a liar and someone who obviously has severe mental issues. Again, I am not a "liberatarian", nor have I ever been. Yet, I doubt that your lies will cease.
Libertarians are disgusting aren't they? Baby killers, homosexuals, drug pushers, pornographers, you know, those who if they say the right words, will inherit the Kingdom of Heaven.

I do love exposing frauds like you. You can only copy and paste verses in an attempt to back your cheap grace theology. When difficult questions are asked, you run like a coward (yes I did borrow that off Aaron, may he RIP).
 
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