ARCHIVE: Telling a lie can be righteous!

Nathon Detroit

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Originally posted by Jaltus
All the examples that you guys give are from NARRATIVE PASSAGES. Nothing in the text says whether what they did was good or evil. Nothing says that is what we are to do. The Assyrains murdered people, and that is recorded in the Bible. Should we do the same thing?

Judas betrayed Christ. Should we do the same thing?

You need to make a decision about what is descriptive and what is prescriptive. Just because it is recorded in the Bible does not mean it is the right or God-approved thing to do.
So please help me out here...

Are you asserting that God would have preferred that the Hebrew midwives NOT lied to the Egyptian King?
 

HopeofGlory

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And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 2 Thess. 2:11

Is God righteous?

In Christ
Craig
 

Nathon Detroit

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Originally posted by Yxboom


There it is. Where Jaltus gets his theology!
Well.. getting your theology from Yoda would most likely be a more accurate education than what most are getting at the local seminary.
 

Jaltus

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School you I will, learn the lesson though you will not.
Noetic effects of the fall there are, think straight do you not.
--Yoda the theologian
 
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Pilgrimagain

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2) We are called to be like Jesus (I John 2:6, among others). Jesus never lied. Therefore, we should never lie either.

The obvious argument brought to you by the Sith

Jesus never used double ply toilet paper, neither should we.
 

Jaltus

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Good point, Pa.

Maybe I should redo that argument.

on second thought, it was building off of one, not standing apart from it. If you see Jesus as Truth, and then we are called to walk as Him, then my point is more clear.

What do you think about that?
 

bill betzler

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Samuel 16:

1 And the Lord said unto Samuel, How long wilt thou
mourn for Saul, seeing I have rejected him from
reigning over Israel? fill thine horn with oil, and
go, I will send thee to Jesse the Bethlehemite: for I
have provided me a king among his sons.
2 And Samuel said, How can I go? if Saul hear it, he
will kill me. And the Lord said, Take an heifer with
thee, and say, I am come to sacrifice to the Lord.
3 And call Jesse to the sacrifice, and I will shew thee
what thou shalt do: and thou shalt anoint unto me him
whom I name unto thee.
4 And Samuel did that which the Lord spake, and came to
Bethlehem. And the elders of the town trembled at his
coming, and said, Comest thou peaceably?
5 And he said, Peaceably: I am come to sacrifice unto
the Lord: sanctify yourselves, and come with me to the
sacrifice. And he sanctified Jesse and his sons, and
called them to the sacrifice.


Here is a biblical account of what you are talking about.

Jaltus is on the right track. No lie, God gave Samuel a different truth to tell Saul when he was afraid of the first truth.
 
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Dee Dee Warren

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Knight... I never even saw this thread before... pretty scarey that we were already saying the same things huh??
 
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Dee Dee Warren

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Knight, you have got to come over and participate on the newest version of this topic. You just HAVE to or I will kick and scream and foam and stomp my feet. Yx has personally witnessed my tantrums, and they are not pretty.
 

Nathon Detroit

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Originally posted by Dee Dee Warren
Knight... I never even saw this thread before... pretty scarey that we were already saying the same things huh??
Your kidding me???

I thought, that you thought that I would be interested in the other thread based on this thread!

Weird.
 
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Dee Dee Warren

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I really never saw it before. I thought you would be interested in the other thread based upon your Battle, and your brief comments that you did post there.
 

Turbo

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Originally posted by GraceInMe

Who's April?

Originally posted by Brother Vinny

Only the best breakfast-sandwich maker I've ever encountered. Oh, and she's also Knight's wife.
:doh: I wish I had read this post before last July. I missed out!
 

LivingDeadDoll

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couldn't you say (using the whole hiding jews scenerio) that you should tell the truth and ALWAYS put your trust in God to work out the rest?
 

Turbo

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Originally posted by LivingDeadDoll

couldn't you say (using the whole hiding jews scenerio) that you should tell the truth and ALWAYS put your trust in God to work out the rest?
NO! Did you read the opening post, about the Hebrew midwives?
 
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