It should be pointed out that those points are not my mere opinion. Each point is substanciated biblically in the thread I linked too. Are there any of them that you reject?
Saved from what?
That's a whopping big "If"!
Most, if not all, children do not need saved.
...by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Romans 5:13b ...sin is not imputed when there is no law.
‘Moreover your little ones and your children, who you say will be victims, who today have no knowledge of good and evil
, they shall go in there; to them I will give it, and they shall possess it.
I was alive once without the law, but when the commandment came, sin revived and I died.
This topic is above your pay grade. I mean, is there any false doctrine that you didn't pick up as a child?
In what perverted church did you ever learn that God "just makes them suffer, not in reaction to anything the sentient beings have done, He does it for no reason at all." That's Calvinist claptrap and blasphemy! It's also the opposite of justice and THE reason you can know it's false doctrine.
No. "Superfluous" is the wrong word. In such a case the word "justice" would be meaningless.
Says who, you?
Who gives a damn what "most people would say"? I certainly don't. The word "just" has a very clear and specific meaning which is well understood and not in dispute. It is not a matter of opinion or popular vote.
Right action (i.e. in thought, word and deed).
This is, however, a slightly different subject. Exodus 21 is all about criminal justice and not justice in general but still, the point is well taken! Justice has to do with getting what one actually deserves.
Dante's Inferno is not in the bible, Gary.
Just as importantly, you're far more evil than you give yourself credit for, as are we all.
You're well out of your own depth here, Gary. You simply don't know what you're talking about. Your understanding of both Christianity and of God Himself is so skewed by false doctrine and fairy tales that it's difficult to even respond to you. Suffice it to say that, regardless of whatever you've been taught, the bible doesn't teach anything other than whatever it is that you get from God, you yourself will agree that it is just because it will be.
I believe in Hell, just not the pop culture version of it. We know very little about what Hell is going to be except that it will be a permanent separation from God.
No question at all that it is an eternal punishment but you're talking about the conception of Hell that is presented in a piece of 14th century fiction.
Okay, now you're just sort of rambling.
There is no need to assume anything. There is a whole thread that I clearly linked to that you could have referenced. Further, the fact that the thread resides in the Exclusively Christian Forum gives away the "secret", I'd say.
There are no such sections of the bible.
No one here cares about your personal opinions, Gary, least of all me. Swallow it or not, that's the truth.
Besides, what else would it be other than rebellion against God? Is there someone other than God who gets to decide what sin is and what it isn't? God either exists or He doesn't. If He exists, you are subject to Him. He set out the rules very clearly because that's His prerogative as your Creator. If you break the rules then you are rebelling against the One who put the rules in place.
In fact, it is no surprise that you'd gravitate toward this error because it is basically you minimizing your own sin. If sin isn't rebellion against God, it isn't nearly as big a deal as it would be otherwise.
This is false.
You are so in over your head here. You're false conclusions are based on false premises, the chief one so far being the notion that sinning isn't a rebellion against God.
The child should be forced to pay restitution, nothing more. Why on Earth would you think God would put anyone to death for stealing?
You're so confused that I am honestly having a difficult time following you from one sentence to the next!
The punishment for stealing is spelled out very clearly in the book of Exodus. Nowhere is it mentioned that anyone gets tortured at all, much less for an eternity.
What sort of stupid church did you attend where could have gotten so completely confused?
You believe every fairy tale ever told about Hell. You probably even think that Satan runs the place! You conflate criminal justice with what is going to happen on judgment day and you seem to think that this sort of nonsense is actually taught in the bible!
Where does it say that you're to love everyone else?
Did your pastor teach that you should love Hitler or Jeffery Dahmer? If so, he was an idiot who probably told you that you had to forgive everyone of any and all wrong that they've done to you whether they've repented of it or not. And there's no doubt at all that you were taught and fully believed that we aren't to judge people either, right?
It didn't work because it wasn't true. You were a child! There's not a chance your were a "pathetic scumbag" of any sort.
Well, its the fact that you were a child that is precisely the issue. If you throw one of those do-nut shaped life preservers to a person sitting on your living room couch and he, "with urgency" thanked you so much for saving his life, is he grateful or was he tricked by a lie you told him?
Well, all I can tell you is that what you've rejected is not biblical Christianity. What it sounds to me like is that you've rejected a secularized version of Calvinism, which, even without the secularization, is nearly pure heresy and blasphemy. Calvinists do not even believe that justice applies to God!
I'd bet that you've likely never even heard what biblical Christianity is, although I suspect that this post will begin to give you some inkling of it. One thing you can start with is the fact that there is no such thing as an irrational truth, something that no Calvinists would ever affirm in this context.
Read the opening post of the following thread...
Is God Moral