11-year-old Gang-Rape Victim: Should She Be Able To Legally Abort?

[WizardofOz]

Can someone who considers themselves pro-life argue that it should be legal for an 11-year-old rape victim to legally obtain an abortion?

What is she was 13? 15? 18?

What if an 11-year-old gets pregnant through consensual sex?

Draw your arbitrary line in the sand and let us know your thoughts!

When should abortion be legal?

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Can someone who considers themselves pro-life argue that it should be legal for an 11-year-old rape victim to legally obtain an abortion?

What is she was 13? 15? 18?

What if an 11-year-old gets pregnant through consensual sex?

Draw your arbitrary line in the sand and let us know your thoughts!

When should abortion be legal?

Before you go moving the goal posts any further Aaron, let's put a face behind your story.

SWEDEN: 20 Muslim invaders gang rape 11-year-old Swedish girl in public bathhouse

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2012/...11-year-old-swedish-girl-in-public-bathhouse/

 

[Christian Liberty]

No, she shouldn't.

During the trial phase, I could see partial or total leniency being shown based on mitigating factors such as severe trauma. In the 11 year old girls case, it is likely the jury would decide that she's already been punished more than enough.

That said, that's the type of decision that would be made after the fact. It is a recognition of reality, not an excuse. Abortion, even in the case of rape, remains an act of aggression against an innocent child, and should never be LEGAL.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

No, she shouldn't.

During the trial phase, I could see partial or total leniency being shown based on mitigating factors such as severe trauma. In the 11 year old girls case, it is likely the jury would decide that she's already been punished more than enough.

That said, that's the type of decision that would be made after the fact. It is a recognition of reality, not an excuse. Abortion, even in the case of rape, remains an act of aggression against an innocent child, and should never be LEGAL.

You talked out of both sides of your mouth again Jr.

What trial phrase? Are you saying that an 11 year old should stand trial for aborting her baby after being gang raped by 20 Muzzies?

 

[WizardofOz]

Before you go moving the goal posts any further Aaron, let's put a face behind your story.

SWEDEN: 20 Muslim invaders gang rape 11-year-old Swedish girl in public bathhouse

Ah, because the morality of abortion is relative to the circumstance behind the pregnancy and age of the mother-to-be.

Telling :think:

 

[ChristNU]

Seems it would be better to hear from those actually conceived in rape as to if they would have preferred to have been denied life and aborted.

http://www.rebeccakiessling.com/Othersconceivedinrape.html

 

[Christian Liberty]

You talked out of both sides of your mouth again Jr.

What trial phrase? Are you saying that an 11 year old should stand trial for aborting her baby after being gang raped by 20 Muzzies?

No, I said she would stand trial for murder.

 

[Christian Liberty]

What's so ridiculous about this...

Based on the way aCW says "Muzzies" I don't even think its about rape for him. aCW just hates Muslims that much.

Go to Hell, you hater of God...

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote:
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Before you go moving the goal posts any further Aaron, let's put a face behind your story.

SWEDEN: 20 Muslim invaders gang rape 11-year-old Swedish girl in public bathhouse

Ah, because the morality of abortion is relative to the circumstance behind the pregnancy and age of the mother-to-be.

Telling

The things one sees on TOL: a pagan talking about morality with a Christian.

Yes, Aaron, if an 11 year of girl (who must be less than 5 feet tall and probably weighs less than a hundred pounds) is forced through law to carry a baby to term, which most likely would kll her, that would be an immoral act.

Angel4Truth addressed that in Lighthouse's rape thread.

Do you want to be responsible for that little girls death Aaron?

 

[aCultureWarrior]

What's so ridiculous about this...

Based on the way aCW says "Muzzies" I don't even think its about rape for him. aCW just hates Muslims that much.

Go to Hell, you hater of God...

Now now Jr., play nice.

 

[Granite]

Can someone who considers themselves pro-life argue that it should be legal for an 11-year-old rape victim to legally obtain an abortion?

What is she was 13? 15? 18?

What if an 11-year-old gets pregnant through consensual sex?

Draw your arbitrary line in the sand and let us know your thoughts!

When should abortion be legal?

Would giving birth or continuing the pregnancy for any length of time endanger her life?

That's the only litmus test you really need.

 

[Christian Liberty]

Quote:
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Before you go moving the goal posts any further Aaron, let's put a face behind your story.

SWEDEN: 20 Muslim invaders gang rape 11-year-old Swedish girl in public bathhouse



The things one sees on TOL: a pagan talking about morality with a Christian.

Yes, Aaron, if an 11 year of girl (who must be less than 5 feet tall and probably weighs less than a hundred pounds) is forced through law to carry a baby to term, which most likely would kll her, that would be an immoral act.

Angel4Truth addressed that in Lighthouse's rape thread.

Do you want to be responsible for that little girls death Aaron?

Yeah, funny that a pagan like you would talk morality with a Christian.

Now now Jr., play nice.

Nope. You're a God-hater and deserve to be addressed accordingly.

Would giving birth or continuing the pregnancy for any length of time endanger her life?

That's the only litmus test you really need.

And what do you know, the atheist is more moral than the "Christian" in this thread.

 

[WizardofOz]

Yes, Aaron, if an 11 year of girl (who must be less than 5 feet tall and probably weighs less than a hundred pounds) is forced through law to carry a baby to term, which most likely would kll her, that would be an immoral act.

Angel4Truth addressed that in Lighthouse's rape thread.

Do you want to be responsible for that little girls death Aaron?

That bridge could be crossed once she is in danger. Should she just abort without first having complications?

You and Angel are assuming that she would die without an abortion. That is a giant leap of an assumption.

What is she is 12, 13, 15? Where does your moral relativism change?

 

[fool]

The thing is this WoZ.
No matter how that baby got there I would never tell someone to kill their kid.

 

[WizardofOz]

The thing is this WoZ.
No matter how that baby got there I would never tell someone to kill their kid.

:thumb:

Well said, fool

 

[oldhermit]

Can someone who considers themselves pro-life argue that it should be legal for an 11-year-old rape victim to legally obtain an abortion?

What is she was 13? 15? 18?

What if an 11-year-old gets pregnant through consensual sex?

Draw your arbitrary line in the sand and let us know your thoughts!

When should abortion be legal?

How does the murder of the child in any way equate to justice for the mother???

 

[Granite]

How does the murder of the child in any way equate to justice for the mother???

If continuing the pregnancy or giving birth kills the mother (and possibly the child) what kind of "justice" do you call it? That's as close to letting the rapists win as you can get.

 

[oldhermit]

If continuing the pregnancy or giving birth kills the mother (and possibly the child) what kind of "justice" do you call it? That's as close to letting the rapists win as you can get.

Is there any current medical reason to believe that the mother's life is in danger?

 

[Christian Liberty]

@granite- That's not the point.

The point is that aCultureWarrior wants to call the rest of us "Moral relativists" and to argue that "legislation = approval" and then wants to legalize abortion in cases of rape.

 

[Granite]

Is there any current medical reason to believe that the mother's life is in danger?

No, which is why I used the word "if." A danger to the mother's life is my litmus test. And it's an obvious concern given this girl's age.