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How shall one believe except by hearing, and hearing except by someone preaching? How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher?And how shall they preach unless they are...

Not the point of contention.

What it says is that a person cannot come unless the Father has drawn them. It doesn't say they cannot EVER come. Nor does it say that EVERYONE the Father draws WILL come. Now respond to the rest of what I said, please.

Why anyone would lock up their elderly parents/grandparents/relatives in a prison is beyond me...

You did not give scripture that says what you claim it does.

Chapter verse, please. First of all, who is Jesus speaking to, in that verse, and second, does it say that they CANNOT EVER come to God? or does it say that they are simply not willing to come to Him, at that point in time? It says the latter. "There is none" who understands, seeks after...

Fair enough. Yeah, I'm usually pretty thick skinned (or maybe just thick-headed, haha) so I'm not affected by indirect attacks on my person, or I just don't even notice them to begin with. I've used it a bunch here on TOL in the Politics section, mostly when I'm in a discussion with people...

Something about gates...

https://summit.news/2021/03/25/bloomberg-op-ed-we-must-start-planning-for-a-permanent-pandemic/?utm_source=wnd&utm_medium=wnd&utm_campaign=syndicated

You'll get it into their heads eventually, either figuratively, or literally...

They'll get it one way... Or another?

Appeal to the stone (or appeal to ridicule, I suppose) rather, but yes, a fallacy nonetheless!

Then it should be easy to answer. Does God have all the glory He will ever have?

... is how many?

Doesn't make sense? It's a very simple question, B57. Or is it that you're afraid of answering?

@Lon I'll try to get to your posts this weekend. In the meantime, please enjoy this BEL show where Bob talks with Dr. John Sanders on the topic of the history of Open Theism. https://kgov.com/john-sanders-open-theism-interview-historic-considerations

Let me put it to you this way: Does God have all the glory He will ever have?

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https://summit.news/2021/03/25/bloomberg-op-ed-we-must-start-planning-for-a-permanent-pandemic/?utm_source=wnd&utm_medium=wnd&utm_campaign=syndicated https://www.wnd.com/2021/03/medical-bureaucracys-shameless-destructive-covid-response/

Not the first time the dumbocrats have openly committed fraud. https://www.newspapers.com/image/349579789