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It really does not. Yes, you can interpret some passages to say that there was, but they don't actually say that unless you interpret it that way. That's called confirmation bias, by the way. There is PLENTY of data to go on. It doesn't help when one side ignores it. There's a lot we don't...

I thought that the universe was still expanding, but there's a point made on https://kgov.com/stretch that honestly makes more sense in my mind, and that's that God created the universe at it's current size, and then pulled the light from the stars like he caused the plants to grow, stretching...

I'm not saying that it's not based on scripture. I'm saying it's not defensible with scripture. Yes, scripture could be interpreted (key word) to argue that the earth is flat, but A) such an interpretation falls into conflict with other scripture, and B) such an interpretation doesn't fit...

The earth is central, but it is not the center, nor is it the center of the solar system, galaxy, etc. The sun and planets and moons do not orbit the earth, nor do the stars. That is what is meant by geocentrism, which was disproven by Copernicus and Galileo. In fact, we're not even in the...

What arguments? All you've made so far are claims.

And even if that were true, so what? Things still fall, the earth still pulls the atmosphere to itself at equilibrium with its tendency to expand, and I'm laying in my bed, all because of gravity.

There is plenty of scientific evidence that has been presented even here in this very thread for the HPT, which is a theory based on the heliocentric model.

You have a good point. I will concede, seeing as I've also done a bit more research, and even my own sources consider it to be something from the flood, and not the creation week. I will point out, however, that the NKJV nor the Hebrew text has the word "again" in it. But that's a moot point...

It's "Enyart." Get it right. One doesn't need to know what something is in order to know that it exists and works. Hypocrite. Your following is an example. If you get to do it, then so do I. Incorrect. A gas expands until the pressure is equalized. This includes the downward pressure of...

Ok, Here you go: All of these are arguments from your belief that the earth is geocentric, a belief that was disproven centuries ago simply by observing the movements of the planets. And we all know you're a flat-earther, so it's not surprising that you'd make such arguments.

That's just reality. Because it did. TNOs including Pluto and Charon, asteroids, meteoroids, meteors, and meteorites are all debris from the Fountains of the Great Deep. You gave no such evidence, only assertions. https://creationscience.com/onlinebook...

Read Ezekiel 31. You could always just watch Bryan Nickel's HPT videos on YouTube... He did an excellent job animating what it might have looked like. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpl6E8stJTiIi8wdLgYj1eXpp-4o1UUkZ Of course, God's would definitely be better, if we even care about it...

It's easier to catch up to a conversation doing it that way. Which could just as easily apply to the seas God made in Genesis 1:9-10...

Your source would be, if you're listened to it, one of Bob's seminars on the Flood, either as part of the Plot series, or one of the GFHPT videos/shows... Let me see if I can find where I heard him talk about it...

Which is just as easily explained as the sequence of "the fountains of the great deep broke forth, and the windows of heaven were opened" says, that the water came out of the ground, and much of it fell back to earth, "the windows of heaven were opened." Genesis 7:11–12. A lot of rain fell...

The forum is titled "The Global Flood and the Hydroplate Theory." It's for discussions of the Global Flood, and particularly the HPT.

A valid proposal, shot down instantly by the fact that the Bible (not to mention the laws of reason and logic) doesn't allow for it. Appealing to the miraculous where the Bible doesn't specify that a miracle happened allows for any number of ridiculous ideas to be put forth as valid, because...

Yup. I don't think so. "Windows of the heavens" is phrased the same way as "firmament of the heavens." I think it's just a way of saying there was a huge downpour, and Dr. Brown makes the point that it's a sequence of events: Rain didn't fall until after the fountains of the great deep broke...

What marke said aside, much of the water is still on the earth, while the rest of it was ejected into space. Why? If the mechanism that drove the fountains of the great deep was gravity pulling on a supercritical fluid that was forced out of (relatively narrow) cracks in the crust, and then...

The Bible gives a clear indication that half of the water was above the crust that was spread out, and the other half was below it: Then God said, “Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.”Thus God made the firmament, and divided the...