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He's one of those types who looks at evidence that contradicts his worldview and rejects it outright without actually examining/testing it.

Ha, very funny. You should look at the evidence they present without bias, like a true scientist would. You might be surprised.

I'll just leave this here... Evidence.

There are a few topics we could discuss that show that the Bible is indeed a history book, but there's one in particular that has been cropping up recently. Israel's exodus from Egypt. It turns out that there is plenty of evidence for this event. Would you be interested in viewing it?

Hunter, is everything in the Bible figurative? Or just that verse?

Dave, go read the links on gravity, Newton's laws, and flight.

Dave, the earth dropping away and the plane ascending from the ground are the exact same things, just from two different perspectives. The plane is moving relative to the earth, but relative to the plane, the earth is the object that is moving. I suggest you read this, Dave...

I responded to your point. Perhaps you should respond to mine now.

Dave, I would appreciate it if you would respond to what I post, and not just rehash your original argument. Try again, please.

Which one?

The Bible says that God "hung the earth on nothing." *He stretches out the north over empty space;He hangs the earth on nothing. - Job 26:7 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job26:7&version=NKJV

Dave, if the earth is a globe, then it doesn't matter how far a plane flies, it will never have the ground "slowly drop beneath it" unless it's gaining altitude, hence my question, can a plane start by flying horizontally, and eventually nose up until it's flying vertically? Which just...

Dave, If you want discussion, answer the questions that are put to you.

Answer the questions, Dave: Can a plane fly sideways? Can a plane go from flying horizontally to flying vertically?

Just answer the question Dave. I'm not going to let you avoid this. Can a plane fly sideways? Can a plane slowly bring it's nose up and go from flying horizontally to flying vertically?

"Ballistic" means nothing to him because he rejects the concept of gravity.

Can it fly sideways? :think: Dave, can a plane slowly bring it's nose up and go from flying horizontally to flying straight up vertically?

Saying something doesn't make it true, Dave. Show how I'm wrong, please.

Dave, for someone who doesn't even think that gravity exists, you sure do have a lot of opinions of how it does NOT work. If a plane is always level, and gravity is pulling down on it constantly, and it's flying in a straight path, it will always be at the "top" of the "hill" that is the...

Dave, I said a plane. I didn't say spaceship or space ramp. I said plane. If a plane is flying along a straight path along the equator, it's not going to see any drop, because it's not changing it's "attitude," or pitch.