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Yes, God can and did use Israel's rebellion. But they rebelled nonetheless, and did NOT become His spokes-nation to the Gentiles as He wanted them to be.

That's something I don't get. Why speak a language that no one in the vicinity can understand, including, sometimes, the very person reading/speaking it? It just makes it seem like you're hiding something.

Except it wasn't. Israel never became the spokes-nation God wanted her to be. Instead, we have a single Apostle going to all the world while the Twelve sat largely in Jerusalem. You can't record (truthfully) what never happened in the first place.

Today, sure. But not prior to Acts 9. Yes, it consisted of individuals, but God had a corporate relationship with her, not the individuals she consisted of. Wrong. Israel was to be a spokes-nation to the world, teaching the world about Him.

You're evading. The fact of the matter is that the finches changed in 17 years. Not 2.3 million. Seems completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

It seems you missed this:

Argumentum ad ignorantium You might have a point if we didn't actually have plenty of evidence that dinosaurs DID exist, and that the evidence does not contradict, and in fact, supports, the Young Earth Creationist view.

Think of it this way: People (in this case, the Jews) were given light. They refused it, long enough for God to say, "Ok, you don't want the light, let me take it away from you, and give it to the Gentiles," Thus, by God taking away the light that they have refused, they have become blind, and...

Because those who became proselytes under the New Covenant became part of the Circumcision. Yet Paul calls those who were formerly Gentiles in the Body of Christ "neither Jew nor Greek." For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.For as many of you as were baptized into Christ...

"Jesus loves the little children All the children of the world Red and yellow, black and white They are precious in His sight Jesus loves the little children of the world Jesus died for all the children All the children of the world Red and yellow, black and white They are precious in His sight...

So what? Prophecies fail when circumstances change. That's a fact. Just read Jonah. Do you think God couldn't accomplish His will just because one man repented? I certainly don't think so.

Question for both of you: If Judas had repented just prior to selling Jesus out, A) would God have been happy or mad that he did, and B) would God's plans have been ruined/foiled simply because a man repented? In other words: why do you assume that Judas was guaranteed to betray Christ?

It's actually really easy to observe changes in populations. The problem for you is that those changes don't result in the creature becoming another. For example: https://kgov.com/lee-spetner-on-non-random-evolution-bacteria-and-finches * Finches Adapt in 17 Years, Not 2.3 Million: As for...

I'm thinking Acts 9, either the moment Paul converted, or particularly when Ananias #2 laid hands on Paul.

@Omniskeptical if you would like to respond when you return, please do not blaspheme God when you do so. TOL is a mainline Christian trinitarian board. Differing opinions are allowed, but we will not allow you to mock God according to our beliefs.

Acts 9. About one year after Christ's resurrection.

Talk about missing the point! Clearly I'm referring to a moral standard. Not symbolic laws given specifically to Israel that in any other circumstance would be completely arbitrary and not valid laws at all! By the mouth of two or three witnesses a matter shall be established. That's what...

I was repeating your argument in my own words. Thank you for conceding the point. Wrong. Jesus said: “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. - Matthew 5:17 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew5:17&version=NKJV...

No. That's begging the question. Who said anything about human rules? I didn't. Again: If He is a unitarian God, he CANNOT meet His own just standard of "two or three witnesses to establish a matter," because if God is singular in nature, then he is only one witness. You keep ignoring the...

To answer Derf's question: It's not a matter of "either A or B when presented both." Only one option is available at a time. Either you choose option A before option A was taken away temporarily and option B was made available, or you choose option B after option A is no longer available.