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Spare me. You can be saved by believing in Jesus. But Jesus wants you to receive Him in the Eucharist too. It's not one or the other, it's both. That does sound inconsistent with belief in Christ. But I haven't witnessed Caino doing that. And we're not conversing with the Urantia book...

How can you possibly disagree with what you snipped from my post? Substitute "Caino" for literally any other name---how can you disagree with that?

The 20th century philosopher L. Wittgenstein, near the end of his life---I mean really near, like within weeks of his demise---tackled the matter of certainty. He never said the following, but it clicked together for me as I read this short book, against the backdrop of everything else he had...

@Caino is an authentic Christian if Caino believes in Christ and in His Resurrection. Caino has already agreed that the Resurrection really happened. By hook or by crook if Caino believes in Christ, then Caino is an authentic Christian, just as I believe that you are, and that I am. There is...

That just sounds like yet another Noncatholic Christian tradition to me. You all are "an attack upon" the Church. There's the actual Christian faith, the one taught by Christ and His Apostles, the one passed down through the ages by the men holding the office specifically instituted to...

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@Caino is one of many here on TOL who "do not profess the Catholic faith in its entirety" (838), but who nonetheless professes to believe in Christ, and in His Resurrection. Nobody can formally convert to the Catholic faith without confessing our entire Creed, but anybody can come to Mass. No...

1257 ...Baptism is necessary for salvation for those to whom the Gospel has been proclaimed and who have had the possibility of asking for this sacrament.... God has bound salvation to the sacrament of Baptism, but he himself is not bound by his sacraments. 1260 Every man who is ignorant of the...

Demonstrate your assertion from the Catechism then. Because you appear to be contradicting its clear words.

Uh huh. Muslims are welcome at Mass, just as is everybody. Everybody can attend Mass. You can't receive Communion is all, until and unless you convert (or in your case, re-convert through the sacrament of Reconciliation), but you can witness the Mass, and participate, or not...

What does that mean.

Prove, it.

Pope St. John Paul II's Catechism is freely available on the internet and can be had in mass market edition print for 15 USD, and you don't know anything that isn't in that.

Catholicism believes that all who believe in Christ, that He is risen from the dead and the Son of God, are Christians. You're not Catholic, so you would not have any reason to know this. @Caino you are generally welcome at any Catholic Mass (although Advent Masses and Christmas Mass might...

Do you mean by this that you believe in His Resurrection? I accept all who believe in Christ as my fellow Christian, even if separated, and only imperfectly united, as this condition is only temporary and not eternal.

How you could have possibly inferred that I said anything resembling this is beyond me. It's much closer to the opposite: that the popes are, and always have been, under the authority of St. Paul. The divine tradition originating in Paul is part of the Sacred Apostolic Tradition that all...

The institution of the office of a bishop is both; false dilemma. The office was instituted by the Apostles including Paul during their era, and it has never stopped in 2,000 years.

And yet the three justices.... He could throw everybody under the bus, but those justices persist. They survive this election, whether or not the president does, and they survive his at most four more years in office too. I again compare his personal history, all the things he's ever said...

Resolution? l o l. No, I'm not under any illusions about what's possible and what's not possible here. :chuckle:

Picking political leaders pertains to representative democracy. Why would one believe that it pertains to representative democracy?