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Excellent question! Every single thing you see, assuming you're looking at it through the Earth's atmosphere, is produced in your eyeball with light that has been refracted by the atmosphere. Everything from the Sun, Moon and stars to a distant skyline, to the computer screen in front of you...

True! True! FALSE! How many time will I need to post this for you to stop ignoring it? Effect of atmospheric refraction If the Earth were an airless world like the Moon, the above calculations would be accurate. However, Earth has an atmosphere of air, whose density and refractive index vary...

You're back to not responding to arguments, Dave. Repeating your position doesn't count as a substantive response. I am not avoiding anything! Remember this... Effect of atmospheric refraction If the Earth were an airless world like the Moon, the above calculations would be accurate. However...

I know they do! From the bottom up! That is PROOF that the Earth cannot be flat because things very simply would not do that if it were. No who's disregarding evidence? It is not too far away IF the Earth is flat! It's not even close to being too far away. It's not even too small! Something...

The same guy did this video too. It's even better!

Here's an outstanding video that shows that if the Earth is flat, Ontario Canada must be below sea level! (Similar to how that San Matteo bridge is below sea level but way worse. Also, it shows a continuous video of a rocket launch and satellite deployment showing, not only the curvature of the...

From the same exact satellites that create the maps that you use to get around town. Which reminds me of something... I was helping one of my daughters with a school project several years ago and we wanted to make a large map of the northeast part of the state of Oklahoma. I had an old map...

You can trace it out yourself, Dave. Get Google maps and trace it out. I did! My curve wasn't as smooth as the image on your map and the image on your map isn't as detailed as reality but my rough trace out came to be about 20,500 miles. The more detail the more miles and a more detailed course...

You can only see down the line of sight, Dave. It makes no difference whether you're using a telescope or not. The only way you can see past the horizon is if the light is being bent around the curve of the Earth. What you don't seem to grasp is that the implication of what you are saying is...

I'm not disregarding anything! And, yes atmospheric refraction it is being denied, or at the very least ignored. And yes atmospheric refraction most certainly does give sufficient curve to explain what is seen in that video. What CANNOT be explained at all by the flat earth folks is why the...

Dave, Just a quick question. What do flat earth folks think this is a picture of? See full resolution image HERE. How do we have high-resolution pictures of a place that doesn't exist?

Notice he went clockwise with Antarctica on his starboard side. Think it throught, Dave. Is that the way it would work if he went clockwise around the flat Earth? How would you keep an ice wall to you starboard (right) side if you were sailing clockwise (i.e. turning toward your starboard...

Not sure who this was aimed at but if it was intended for me, everything you said here is irrelevant.

I never said a word about mirages. A mirage would, in fact, be the opposite of what I said. A mirage happens when light is refracted up and away from the surface of the Earth. What I'm suggesting is the opposite of that. "Suggesting" being a generous word since atmospheric light diffraction...

It wouldn't even be that complicated. If the flat earth model is accurate then the coast of Antarctica should curve around in one direction relative to the ship while on a spherical Earth it would curve around in the opposite direction. So, if a ship has the coast of Antarctica to its Port side...

In regards to the size of Antarctica on the flat Earth vs a globe, the flat earth folks might get away with suggesting that no measurement of Antarctica has been made. They can call any such measurements fraudulent or whatever because no one who discusses this (virtually) has been to Antarctica...

That's almost got it. It isn't "those who measured Antarctica" it's "those who claim to have measured Antarctica". In other words, they deny that any such measurement has ever been made or even that it could be made. Poe's Law is truly in full effect here.

Well, it didn't take long for me to confirm that atmospheric refraction does indeed play a very significant role when performing such experiments... Effect of atmospheric refraction If the Earth were an airless world like the Moon, the above calculations would be accurate. However, Earth has an...

While I haven't yet confirmed this, I really think that atmospheric refraction has to be accounted for, which the video does not do. Also, the video sort of testifies against its own premise. If the Earth was flat, shouldn't he have been able to video the entire bridge pillar all the way to the...

I'm out of time for today. I want to know about how the atmosphere would interfere with my lake experiment. My intution says that it can be ignored because the light beam doesn't enter or leave the atmosphere throughout the experiment and so it seems like the light should travel in a straight...