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On the contrary, Dave. Meteor showers cannot look like they are coming from the same point in the sky for all observers if the Earth is a flat disk covered by a dome, nor would they be predictable the way they are.

The chase planes are there for security. The shuttle comes in over international waters where God knows who's Navy is around. I bet the Chicoms would love to "mistake" an unattended American space shuttle for a hostile aircraft.

I've read the entire book more than once. I know what it says and what it claims to be and you have no basis whatsoever for calling it "incompitent". I couldn't care less what you've done on other threads. I will not permit you to highjack this thread. Start a new thread or drop it. In either...

It's a theory, Thomas. It isn't a peer-reviewed scientific paper. It is a theory presented in laymen's terms because the book is intended for laymen to read. You've gotta take things for what they are and critique them based on what they're intent is. In no case is "incompetent" a fair...

I've taken similar photos with my own camera. It was years ago and the photos are on film (slides actually) and I don't even know where they are now so I can't post them here or else I would. Remember, multiple independent source confirmation. Look it up. Look it up in several places. Look on...

The guy is trying to convince of something, Dave! You don't have to take anyone's word for it. Listen to it! If he had just stuck with that first video, it would be a harder case to make because that's the one that would be the most convincing. But then he'd have a problem because there are all...

Dave, I had an entire post typed responding to all five of the "arguments" made in this video and when I hit the post button, TOL acted like I wasn't logged in (I never ever log out) and I lost the whole post. The only thing that survived was the photo I imported of the Persied Meteor shower...

Dave, watch that video again. The guy's own videos disprove his thesis. Notice how the sound of the jet engines pass the camera before the shuttle does. Notice how the sound of the jet engines isn't even close to being loudest when the back end of the shuttle is facing the camera. Notice how...

Great post! I LOVE the Hydroplate Theory! I have multiple copies of Walt Brown's book. Truly outstanding!

I'm trying my best not to get emotional. I'm not at all surprised to hear that you wouldn't rest your case on a single verse. That is exactly in keeping with what I've come to expect from you. This thread, however, is certainly not what I've come to expect at all. I think the real problem here...

For the last time, what we see is not in contradiction to a spherical spinning Earth that orbits the Sun. On the contrary, the Earth is all of those things are else God has made the things in the sky move in just such a way that such a way as to be entirely and perfectly consistent with exactly...

Why would you prefer that? Why not prefer to believe that the bible simply says what it says and accept that your understanding of the nature of God's world is richer than what is revealed in that one sentence of the bible? The bible does not say that the Earth is a sphere nor does it say that...

Circles are not spheres but spheres are circular and from any vantage point a sphere looks like a circle. It is, therefore not one bit wrong or inaccurate to speak of "the circle of the Earth". This post of yours is an attack, not just on the intelligence of those who read it but on the whole...

This claim has also been repeatedly refuted. The horizon does, in fact, drop with elevation. You mean to say that what we see with our eyes isn't always giving us the whole picture? Surely not! Yes, they have. See! I can make naked claims with no argument too! The fact is that, if the Earth...

The spherical Earth conspiracy, if it exists, has been perpetuated for centuries longer than NASA or even the United States of America and dozens of countries have space programs right now, many of whom are enemies of each other in almost every respect. It would seem that the perpetuation of...

The question that no one has made any real attempt to answer is WHY such a lie needed to be told. Where's the motive? Who gives a rip what shape the Earth is? If it's flat or round makes no difference to me. It doesn't affect my faith in God one iota either way. It doesn't change the way I live...

The whole airline industry is in on the conspiracy! Have you ever personally flone from Chile to Australia? How do you know that such a flight even exists, much less how long it takes? It's all lies. It's government lies spawned from Satan to decieve the world into believing that the Earth is...

This is a claim that has already be repeatedly refuted. Distance does not cause something to vanish from the bottom up. If it was distance, it would just keep getting smaller and smaller and smaller. If that were the case, it would simply be a matter of our eyes limited resolution that created...

That isn't the point! The point is that if the Earth is flat, there are THOUSANDS of things in orbit that are not physically possible and that hundreds of thousands of people make their living in an industry that is entirely fraudulent, many tens of thousands of whom would have to be in on the...

This thread is over 1700 posts long at this point. There have been mutilple examples of visual evidence of the curvature of the Earth. You're in denial and need to wake up. This is the single stupidest thing you've said in this entire thread, David. The ship has to be several miles away from...