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Remember the hymn, "Revive us again"? The refrain goes, "Hallelujah Thine the glory, hallelujah amen, hallelujah Thine the glory, revive us again." My brother would sing it: "Hallelujah Thine the glory, hallelujah amen, hallelujah Thine the glory, revive us again.""Hallelujah Thine the glory...

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Not all. But some, just like you. That's a comfort coming from you.

Nor would I expect you to agree with me over him and your traditional understanding. But hopefully it makes others think a little.

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Thanks for being part of the discussion, Clete.

In other words, David's soul WAS left in hell? Yes, I think that's what it is saying. Because David wasn't resurrected, his soul remained in hell. Yep. Why not? Why would Christ go to hell, but not A, I, J, and D? Isn't the argument that Lazarus, the poor man, went to hell, just to the better...

So do I...because of resurrection. See below about the angels in chains of darkness, not fire. That's a pretty big leap to make. I think you'll have a hard time backing that up with scripture. Chains of darkness might be tartarus. No fire yet, right? Hell is used for "hades", "tartarus", and...

What I'm saying is 1. If it isn't that important, then my view shouldn't be a threat to you or other Christians. And 2. We don't determine the importance of God's truth. I.e., if He tells us how things work, we should be interested, instead of just assuming we already know everything. Finally...

I feel for you. I've been doing mine on a cell phone. Do we get to decide which things it's ok not to be accurate about? If we decide the importance, then we can relegate the gospel to a back burner. Why? It doesn't seem that extraordinary to me. Maybe you're talking about your paradigm. Kind...

Was that Kamala? Oh, wait, that would suggest she actually almost knows what "percent" means.

Not the same as you, apparently. An extrapolation from the text... The beggar was carried, the rich man was buried. You can't bury a spirit, but it seems to compare the two at this point. Right, that's why I say it's an extrapolation from the text. You are applying your view of Jesus'...

Sorry about the computer problems. Duh. Of course I will strive (not strain) to find some interpretation that supports my view instead of the opposite one. And what I did was point out a hole in YOUR interpretation of II Cor 5:6, which you haven't answered yet (I know...computer problems). I...

Remember how Peter spoke about David? Acts 2:29 KJV — Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. And: Acts 2:34 KJV — For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The...

Rather, "Hold my Bud Light."

Yes No. Abraham isn't mentioned. And the sea. Don't forget about the sea. See? No Abraham. What did the angels carry? And how does it compare with the rich man's fate? Not "only". But that's one usage. Amen! Yes, that all makes sense. God breathed into man the breath of life (one version...

Hi Clete. I'm probably on ignore, so you might not see this, but I wanted to address it anyway. And normally I would go through it comment-by-comment--maybe I still will. But I think it's better that I explain again why I'm doing this thread. My transition to Open Theism brought me to this site...

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