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So totally right and well said!

David, I personally know people who have captured photos of the ISS with their own cameras. There are websites dedicated to teaching people how to do it. There are no balloons! The above image is from http://soggyastronomer.com/how-to-photograph-the-international-space-station/

David, I am beyond frustrated with this entire discussion. To think that what you've done in this thread qualifies as "digging deep" absolutely boggles my mind. You can't even read my posts and detect the difference between "almost perfectly parallel" and simply "parallel" and want to call me an...

I never said that they were parallel. MORON! What I did do was prove you're stupid. Good bye David. I'm not participating in this idiotic waste of time any longer. Go be stupid and make the whole Christian world look like idiots while you're at it. :wave2:

You are truly stupid. The photo was taken by a camera. One camera from one location. Like I said, whenever its convenient for you, you ignore perspective. It's because you're a mix of liar and idiot. The rays you are seeing in the photo look like they are shooting down but the angle is much...

Nope, they're stupid, lying pieces of evil deception that you are actively participating in and lending the Christian name too. FOOL!

And yet you ignore perspective whenever it is convenient for you...

"no matter where the Earth is in the frame" That is the key point. Notice also that the edges of solar cell array are nice and straight all the way to the edges of the images. There's no way to make the horizon curve without making the edges of those solar arrays curve as well. Unless you...

Wow. I spend I don't know how many months refusing to watch any of your stupid videos and then the one time I decide to hit the play button, the reason for my video boycott is reaffirmed and totally justified. You cannot possibly believe that the video is shot all with the same camera! One...

No David, it doesn't. It's close but not quite. In fact, it is very close. Close in the same sense the surface of water is level. It's actually very slightly curved but so slightly that for practical purposes, it's fine to discuss it in terms of being flat and level. But close isn't exact. In...

The illustrations you present are, of course, wildly exaggerated but it is true that, assuming no hills or other obstruction, the horizon line is always slightly below an observers line of sight. The Earth is gigantic in comparison to us and so the angle in well below the threshold of what our...

I wonder whether he'll ever notice that not only has there been multiple arguments that prove that a flat Earth is rationally impossible but there have been NONE that falsify the idea that the Earth is a globe. I wonder whether he accepts flat vs globe as being the only two rationally viable...

Okay. I thought you were referring to the math that we've done on the thread, which, whether you acknowledge it or not, is absolutely a kill shot in regards to a flat Earth. Either the Earth is not flat or math doesn't work. Clete

This is just so maddeningly stupid! First of all, the math that I presented to you was accompanied by images that we took with our own cameras within seconds of each other that showed the angle of the sun above the horizon at our respective locations. In other words, it wasn't just math that we...

So, this is wrong but lets go with it for now... Does this look like a circle?.... http://www.isstracker.com/

The orbits of satellites are very predictable. You can know precisely when the ISS will be visible in your location and when it will move into or out of the Earth's shadow. Take a wild guess what all the math that is used to make those predictions is based on? Hint: It can't be made to work...

Anything besides this refraction stuff.

I'm responding to my own post to point out that I was wrong. It isn't the apparent size that would be subject to the inverse square law. If we were talking about an object's apparent surface area THEN we'd be talking about geometric progression but when talking about the apparent size (i.e...

The horizon dropping is exactly what actually happens! The problem is that the Earth is large enough that the difference is too small for our eyes to resolve. With sufficiently precise instruments the effect can and has been measured but only by the illuminati and others involved in propagating...

Possible? Probably. Who cares? Yes, three layers is more than one layer. There could be several layers and they would not have to begin with a cold layer near the surface. Temperature is only one of at least three variables. None of which is at all relevant. Saying it doesn't make it so...