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I don't need a video. I've seen the sunset a thousand times with my own eyes. It goes over the horizon. It does not get ANY smaller as it sets because it is not getting any further away. If it were getting further away, it would never ever leave your view but simply shrink until it was a pin...

When you say stupid or foolish things I am going to point it out on the thread where you said it. If you don't like it, stop saying stupid and foolish things. The thread is all still here for everyone one to read, David. The only one not dealing with the arguments is you. Responding is not...

Not so. You do NOT know what you are talking about. Turn off the Discover Channel and TLC, neither of which is about science but rather selling an atheistic worldview and calling it science. Quantum Mechanics has pretty close to nothing at all to do with the macro universe. The idea that the...

Bull! You're the one who brought it up. You're the one who repeatedly ignored multiple people begging you to stop with the idiotic YouTube videos, you're the one who refuses to be convince by the simplest of reasoning that even a third grader can understand while giving weight the most colossal...

Did that! You remain unconvinced. THAT'S what makes me angry. Because "we" are taught too. It's the same reason why most Christians have/had Christian parents and why most Buddhists grew up with Buddhist parents. We believe what we're taught to believe. You cannot possibly be serious. This...

If you could make rational arguments in favor of a flat Earth then it would be different but you discredit yourself and everyone associated with Open Theism with this abject stupidity, which is why it makes me so angry! You have to drop this nonsense!

Train tracks disappear over the horizon too, David.

Then why make it? I mean it's literally just abject stupidity! There is no way I would associate myself with something like that. I'd be embarrassed! What's to explain? The ship goes over the horizon! There would be no horizon on a flat earth. Case closed! The stupid morons refute...

You are stupid David. I cannot even believe you're capable of thinking such idiotic things.

Abney Level Sight level Yes, it is stupid David! It isn't simply the antithesis because we do actually see hard horizon lines EVERY TIME WE GO OUTSIDE!!! And your video shows a hard horizon line with a ship the drops below that line from the bottom up which is exactly what is expected on a...

I for one will not be watching any videos longer than a few seconds long and I also am not willing to discuss anomalous examples of ships appearing to do weird things on the horizon. Besides, aside from the already explained atmospheric distortions of light right at the edge of the horizon, the...

:up: It isn't so minuscule that it cannot be detected at all, David. It's too small to notice with the naked eye but we have instrumentation that can detect it. Flet-Earther seem to pull this stupid trick every time they discuss nearly anything. They're either stupid enough to think that if...

I agree with you that there is a danger of some videos getting dumped in with the bad. This is why it is, in my opinion, wiser for them to not make any such attempts to filter out conspiracies. YouTube is, however, as you are already aware, a privately owned website and no one has "the right"...

The number of miles is not the relevant number. It's the angle that matters. The angle is determine by the relative lengths of two sides of the right triangle. Get a protractor or download an app of some sort and measure 8° above the horizon and see for yourself how far it is. It's isn't...

Assuming that exactly none of the ship is hidden by the horizon and that the camera is six feet about the surface of the water and assuming standard refraction, the ship would be approximately 3.25 miles away. https://www.metabunk.org/curve/

The Right-angled Triangles Calculator b=3959 miles (radius of Earth) c=3999 miles (radius plus altitude) 40 miles altitude yields an 8.11° (angle A) down angle to the horizon line. That's not a huge angle by any means and I'd wager that your brain would still make it feel like it was straight...

I'm not trying to make lite of your work, I just don't get it. After reading it, my thought was, "So what?" What's the argument? It seems you managed to make something where you could actually draw the triangles and measure the angles with a protractor, thereby confirming at least part of...

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All that stuff has been talked about in torturous detail. And besides, how does math that proves that the Earth cannot be flat let any flat Earther off the hook? Ask Dave whether he feels like I'm letting him off the hook.

Yes. I was playing around with the metabunk site and decided that it was too well done for it to be likely that they would have made such a mistake as I was suggesting, so I did some more research and figured it out. Makes me glad I was willing to use their larger number for argument's sake...