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    You Cannot Live the Christian Life

    Every Christian on the planet should be made to read the following post! Thank you so much Pastor Hill! You have no idea how big an impact this single article had on my life! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Here's a [MODERATOR NOTE: The following link is currently broken. Sorry for the...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    No. There is no way that he could have said what he said in response to my post out of any sort of ignorance. He doesn't even seem to have any ability to comprehend a word he reads. Ignorance would have asked questions and sought clarification and understanding. Instead, he derides the content...
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    Unconditional Election vs. Total Depravity

    I've recently noticed a contradiction, or perhaps I should say another contradiction inherent within the Calvinist system but I've not found a good opportunity to mention it in other discussions and so I thought I'd give it it's own thread. It has to do with the two Calvinist concepts that are...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    There is another proof that the Earth is not flat that will happen today for every single man, woman and child on the planet. Today, September 22, 2018 happens to be an equinox. That mean that the sun rose due east and will set due west for everyone everywhere on the planet. It doesn't matter...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I've posted this on this thread more than once already but it bears repeating hear at what seems to be the end of the thread.... Proof That the Earth Cannot Be Flat The last few days I've been playing around with some math and thought I'd post some of it here to see if it might move some of...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    If you think that the early church taught that the Earth was flat - you're wrong! The Flat Earth Myth by Jonathan Sarfati Summary: Almost all the early and medieval church scholars who commented on the earth’s shape explicitly said it was round. Medieval European rulers used a golden sphere...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    The following is a link to a video that was produced by Creation Ministies. It is just completely brilliant and fair and gracious and really ought to end the entire debate. Be sure to check out the resources linked too below the video!
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    It is "being on top" of the Earth that is false. You are swimming in an ocean of air. It wouldn't have to be solid. Why would it have to be solid? No, the atmosphere is part of the Earth and moves with it. It also moves and swirls around relative to the surface of the Earth but it's more...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    My arguments are not merely good arguments. I have falsified this idiotic flat Earth stupidity. You're stupid and that's all there is too it.
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I so badly want to believe this! Can you at least acknowledge how difficult it is for us to keep this in view? How hard it is to even believe? We've thrown colossally debilitating arguments against the FET (Flat Earth Theory) and you react is if it's just so many spit balls at a battleship. Clete
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Saying it doesn't make it so, David. Anyone reading that passage understands what is being said, both then and now. The only difference is that we understand something about how God accomplished what is being described as the Sun standing still. And it did do exactly that, by the way. In every...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Look, debating the M&M experiment and others like it is not the point. The point is that it does NOT prove that the Earth is motionless. It just simply does not do that. It was never intended to do that and it cannot rightly be interpreted as doing that. To do so demonstrates either an agenda...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    David has displayed the ability to think clearly many times in the past, not the least of which is his website. I cannot reconcile the David that authored the material on that website with the David on this thread. It feels to me like two different people.
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Yes, of course we are. We are encased in the atmosphere just as you'd be encased in water if you were submerged in a traveling swimming pool. You think there ought to be some sort of space wind where the Earth would experience some sort of frictional force that would leave the atmosphere...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    It terms of one's experience it is. Isn't that your primary criteria - experience? To everyone on the Earth, the Earth is stationary - relative to them. The Sun, on the other hand, is moving across the sky. If you stop the Earth from spinning on it's axis, everyone who has no concept of a...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I stop at whatever point I find a false premise upon which the rest of what is said is based. See the following... It is not missing the point! IT IS THE POINT! Can you not tell the difference between proving that the Earth does not move vs proving that there is no ether? The Michelson...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    No, you don't. You repeat claims about our experience that you hear other idiots say on YouTube. The fact is that you wouldn't feel the motion in a car is the ride was sufficiently smoothed out. It is changes in direction and momentum that you feel in a car. The Earth does not have to contend...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Stars never ever fall to Earth! Meteor showers eminate in all directions from a small region in the sky. Whatever that region happens to be is what gives the meteor shower it's name. A point I have made several time before and which you ignored. Don't bother claiming that you didn't ignore it...
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