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True! I just cannot imagine what their motives are. What in the world could be profited by holding to such positions?

Saying it doesn't make it so, bub! I dare you to attempt to refute one single syllable of my doctrine. Debating that exact topic was the express purpose behind the creation of this entire website. As a favorite bible teacher of mine likes to say... If predestination is true then God...

Have you read my post where I prove with 8th grade level math that the Earth cannot be flat?

Yes, I know. I can read, thank you. What I said, stands. If you think that it is even remotely possible that the Earth might actually be at the center of our solar system and you have spent more than a day or two looking into it and still consider it possible then you are stupid as a box of...

Proof That the Earth Cannot Be Flat The last few days I've been playing around with some math and thought I'd post some of it here to see if it might move some of the flat earthers maybe an inch or two back toward reality... Let's put some of the sunset images we've taken to good use and see...

A significant percentage of the idiot flat earthers are so in the name of Christianity. It is anything but extraneous. It's making us all look like idiots and pushing people away from their only hope of avoiding an eternity apart from their Creator. I have posted absolutely unassailable proof...

Then you need to read this thread because I have flat out proven that the Earth cannot possibly be flat. Further, if your claim is true that you've "spent a number of years doing extensive authentic research of both heliocentricity and geocentricity", you're an idiot. It wouldn't take two days...

No, David it is not nonsense. It has been PROVEN! Because we are moving right along with it! If you get into a jet and go twice the speed of sound, once you've stopped acceleating you would feel that either and you could look down at the instrumments and they'd appear to be totally motionless...

Are you suggesting that gravity isn't a force but rather some form of kinematic something or other? If not, what was the point of making this comment?

The word weak is a relative term. It is just strong enough to cause what it causes, David. I mean, how am I supposed to answer that question? The exact same force that causes apples to fall from trees is what keeps the Moon in orbit around the Earth and the Earth around the Sun. Newton proved...

Be specific. Where have I done such a thing? I do not affirm their reality (ontologically). They exist as ideas, nothing more. How am I in error? What else are they besides concepts? They do not exist outside of a thinking mind. Gravity is weak in comparison to nearly anything you care to...

Who cares what Einstein "made it"? Time and space are what they are - ideas - period. Everyone wants to give Einstein more credit than he deserves. He deserves a great deal of credit, he was a brilliant man but just because Einstein said it doesn't make it true and much of what people put in...

I love that shot of the far side of the Moon! The Moon has got to be my favorite object in the sky. I've taken several photos of it myself. It's so obviously solid and round and real that it's literally histerical to hear anyone suggest otherwhise the way some flat earthers do.

This is subtly self-contradictory, it seems to me. You seem to want both space and time to be both real and not real. Space is no more an ontological thing than time is. Both space and time are ideas, not things that God created nor are they things that have always existed along with God. They...

Except that you aren't debating and you aren't even investigating. When someone refutes an argument you've made, simply repeating the argument as though nothing was said to refute it doesn't count as debate. That's called stubbornness (or worse). Besides, this thread has been going on for...

Yeah, that's exactly why this bothers me so much! Don't let this thread deter you. Everything on his website is worthwhile so long as he hasn't added a bunch of FET stuff.

I don't think I'd go that far but it is totally confounding. Have you seen his website? It's full of stuff that is just brilliant! What it feels like is that he's had a stroke or been in some sort of accident that caused brain damage because it just doesn't seem possible that the same clear...

You can repeat yourself all you like and you can lie all you like (to yourself mostly) about the veracity of your so called evidence but it doesn't change reality and it doesn't change the fact that I have personally proven that the Earth cannot possibly be flat. I thought that I might be able...

There have been many proofs presented in this thread that the Earth cannot possibly be flat that you haven't even bothered to address, nevermind refute. And I mean it when I say PROOF! And yet you refuse to allow simple reason to persuade your mind. WHY? I invite you to read my post #3462 and...

It actually doesn't but the difference is tiny because the balloon isn't very far off the surface of the Earth in comparison to its size. The Earth is a very big sphere and even if the balloon is very high in relation to the size of a human being, its still quite close in relation to the size of...