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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Your implication, it seemed to me, was that a one time event is somehow super-scientific and is outside that which science can study and understand anything about. And while a one time event cannot be repeated, by definition, it's effects can be studied and we can thus form theories concerning...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I am arguing with the notion that one time events are some how outside the purview of science. What sort of one time event are you refering to?
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    One time events may be difficult to study but that doesn't put them outside the purview of science in any fundamental way. A physical event inside the physical universe that happens via the normal physical laws of the natural world cannot be said to be a super-scientific (i.e. super natural)...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I don't understand this argument. This sounds like you're simply stating that science can't explain the supernatural. How is that anything but a tautology? Anything supernatural would not fall under the purview of science, by definition. That isn't to say that there is no evidence for creation...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Okay, so you're just going to be stubborn fool. Good bye David. I don't ever want to speak to you again.
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    It's clear and obvious stupidity is what it is. When you go to the equator, there isn't a 1000 mph wind in your face. That's because the atmosphere is generally moving along with the surface of the Earth. In other words, the Earth is not moving at 1000 mph relative to the atmosphere but...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    You don't seem to understand the point. First of all, we do not "see flat Earth as irrational" as though its merely our opinion. It IS irrational. The fact that we see it as it is doesn't turn the fact of it's irrationality into a mere opinion. Additionally, the act of calling theism...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Dave, The Earth CANNOT be flat. I have proven it. And I mean that explicitly. I have proven it. I've done so with the clearest and easy to understand logic that anyone could possibly desire or hope for. Indeed, my argument is far more compelling than anything that you rightly cite as 'rational...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    There's no question that it is a modern day popular delusion but I was responding more to his asinine comment about being banned because his slober-mouthed stupidity in video form presented "too much irrefutable truth."
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    If you get banned it'll be because you basically asked for it and explicitly violated what you've been repeatedly told not to do. I wouldn't watch your idiotic video for all the tea in China. You're stupid if you think the Earth is flat. The proof is the fact that you think the Earth is flat...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    They discuss the science of it because we have been created by, and in the likeness of, a rational God and so the idea that the existence in which we leave should make sense is intuitively felt by everyone, including Christians who have seemingly taken leave of their rational faculties. In...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Here's some sound reason applied to the Flat Earth Theory... https://kgov.com/faith-on-the-edge-flat-earth-interview Here's a link to the documentary discussed in the podcast. It costs all of a whole $14.99. If you believe the Earth is flat and you don't spend $15 to hear both empiracle and...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I don't know. Maybe. It feels more like deception to me. As if he has consciously decided in advance that he's going to disagree with and dispute anything anyone says on this thread no matter what it is or how much sense it makes. I mean how hard is it to understand something as simple as ants...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I just don't buy it. There is just no way that he doesn't understand. Something else is going on here.
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Very true but my point wasn't that so much as to simply point out the Jengo is talking out of his... Well, I'm not allowed to say where but you get the gist.
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Exactly! I've spent probably hundreds of hours at this point making direct and substantive arguments. Some simply refute major points on the other side or make substantive affirmative arguments in favor of a globe Earth but would not qualify as "proof" but others are legitimate and utterly...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    The proof that you're a troll who's just talking out his ear is the fact that I have never claimed to have proven that the Earth is round. Never once have I made that claim. Not one single time. Ever. You've not read virtually any (if any at all) of this thread, have you? You've gotten your...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I expect them to make an argument. This is a debate forum. If there are either incapable or unwilling to do that then maybe they need to find another hobby. I don't even remember being asked the question but it doesn't matter. To prove a proposition means that you've established that either...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Nope! I make arguments for what I believe. It's Augustinians (i.e. Calvinist, Catholics, et al.) and idiots who make bald claims without support thinking their boldness makes their case for them. I dare you to attempt to establish this claim. You won't be able to. It's biblical is what it is...
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