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How dare you say such a thing about Right Divider!

But he never used that term in his epistles.

Yes, but it's still a hope. We can be assured of the promise being fulfilled, but it hasn't been yet. What promise is it Paul is mostly speaking of? Hebrews 11:39-40 (KJV) 39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: 40 God having provided some better...

The PROMISE of life.

But from our vantage point, the one that perseveres to the end is the one that is saved--not saved by the perseverance, but evidenced by it.

https://credohouse.org/blog/billy-graham-and-charles-templeton-the-sad-tale-of-two-evangelists

You weren't asking me, but that rarely stops me from jumping in. I think the verse is talking about God's ability to save, not man's ability to be saved. And I think salvation is primarily focused on the resurrection. Thus, Paul is talking about committing something to God--his future state...

And Paul speaks against it. 1 Corinthians 14:4 (KJV) He that speaketh in an [unknown] tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.

I was saying it from your post.

If Jesus knew who would betray him, it seems to mean he knew THAT he would be betrayed. And if he knew wrongly WHO it was, even so far back, the scriptures don't seem to be accurate. But I'm willing to admit of a contingent betrayal, with a fixed crucifixion. A contingent betrayal suggests...

I don't see how Peter is saying anything different than Paul. They both are saying there's a difference between gentiles and the church.

That's not the kind of gentiles one expects to find in the church. 1 Peter 4:3 (KJV) For the time past of [our] life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries:

Then you admit Paul talks in terms of a future reality as if it were already here?

And you think there will be blasphemers in heaven? 2 Timothy 3:2 (KJV) For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 2 Timothy 3:5 (KJV) Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn...

You say, "no", but the immortality of the soul wouldn't depend on Jesus' bodily resurrection. Yet Paul said they would be perished--"gone forever with no hope of life."

This is the one I was thinking of. John 6:64 (KJV) But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

And you've proven why you need me on ignore.

That’s circular. So is this:

Here’s more. John wrote to gentiles, “Gaius” in 3 John, and a previous letter was refused by a gentile, “Diotrephes”, along with the people who brought it. 3 John 1:9 (CSB) I wrote something to the church, but Diotrephes, who loves to have first place among them, does not receive our...

@musterion Here’s some: In Acts, Peter tells us that God has called a people out from the gentiles: Acts 15:14 (CSB) “Simeon has reported how God first intervened to take from the Gentiles a people for his name. Then he writes a letter to them, saying: 1 Peter 2:10 (CSB) Once you were not a...