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  1. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Shipwrecks often result in some deaths, and probably a lot of deaths back then. So yes, they were saved from a future death.
  2. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Yet the leader, Diotrephes, a Greek, refused to receive his letter or his authority, so he wrote to Gaius, another Greek, saying he was coming to judge Diotrephes. And if this is an example of John judging the 12 tribes, then James may well have been writing to Greek and other peoples in his...
  3. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Yes! Just like Paul! Or are you saying Paul and Barnabas preached different gospels on their joint missionary journey?
  4. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Yes, that's a salvation from imminent death. It's not referring to eternal life, but it's still salvation from a future death.
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    Jesus was talking to his disciples. James was writing to some group that was NOT in Jerusalem. Who were under the "law of liberty". James 1:25 (KJV) But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth [therein], he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man...
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    “Saved” isn’t talking about salvation? You’ve really bought into this stuff, haven’t you?
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    Sure, if you close your eyes and plug your ears. What church do you think John would be writing to?
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    We sure don't want to be like Diotrephes, rejecting the authority of those God has placed over us. 3 John 1:9-10 (KJV) 9 I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not. 10 Wherefore, if I come, I will remember his deeds which he doeth...
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    Just like the BOC, at least in the enduring. Colossians 1:22-23 (KJV) 22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: 23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and [be] not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which...
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    Paul was rebuking them for eating the Lord's supper wrongly. You can tell if you just read the next verse. 1 Corinthians 11:20-21 (KJV) 20 When ye come together therefore into one place, [this] is not to eat the Lord's supper. 21 For in eating every one taketh before [other] his own supper: and...
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    Despite the numerous times Paul talked about the future salvation. Romans 5:9 (KJV) Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. Romans 5:10 (KJV) For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being...
  12. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Acts 15:11 (KJV) But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    Into the kingdom Paul kept preaching about.
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    How the Jews ended up saved seemed to be equally mysterious, since the 12 took so long to grasp the idea of Jesus's DBR. But I agree it's probably not their salvation, but their incorporation into the same group as the Jews.
  15. Derf

    Who’s it to?

    Ever wonder why John deals so much with loving the brethren in his epistles? If he was writing to a church the had both Jew and gentile believers, as is obvious from 3rd John, and we know there was conflict even between Hellenic and "regular" Jews when the seven (deacons) were chosen, then you...
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    Who is the "you", and why is that a mystery? Isn't it that the Gentiles would become a people of God? Wasn't that enacted through Paul?
  17. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Tongue planted firmly in cheek. 😉
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    Paul didn’t “preach” the mystery, he enacted the mystery.
  19. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    That’s what resurrection is referring to: entering into life.
  20. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    You can remain effeminate if you want to...
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