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  1. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Especially since most was directed at those who knew nothing of the Hebrew scriptures.
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    Who’s it to?

    Do you think there was a “law of liberty” the Jews would have been following? Can you describe what that would mean for them? I wasn’t conceding the point yet, and perhaps I wasn’t quite clear in the partial sentence you quoted. I’ll try again. So James may be only writing to Jews, but if so...
  3. Derf

    Who’s it to?

    We started the book of James today. The greeting you cite is fairly strong for your view. But here's a twist to consider. James says his audience are living under "the law of liberty": James 1:25 (KJV) But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth [therein], he being not a...
  4. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    And I hope you noticed how the phrase "kingdom of Israel" is not used in the example you gave? The fact that Jesus had risen from the dead says "there is a resurrection, Jesus has shown us the way!" I'll be happy to consider the difference between Paul's version of the unearthly kingdom and...
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    The great thing about the passage is that it's the exact passage the two-gospel advocates want to use to show two gospels, but as you've pointed out, it shows exactly the opposite.
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    Paul on the kingdom: Colossians 1:13 (KJV) Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated [us] into the kingdom of his dear Son: 1 Thessalonians 2:12 (KJV) That ye would walk worthy of God, who hath called you unto his kingdom and glory. 2 Thessalonians 1:5 (KJV) [Which...
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    Training certification statements for retaining a job

    Thanks, Idolater. As a 2nd firing in a specialized field, I don't expect there's much more for me there, so it may be an opportunity to try another field. It wouldn't have been such a big deal to do the testing, which they were willing to pay for, but I don't feel comfortable working for a...
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    Training certification statements for retaining a job

    I was fired a couple weeks ago. Not for the reason stated above solely. They had this odd covid test policy that only applied to those who were unvax'd or wouldn't provide vax status, where they wanted me to test twice a week. I told them I would do it as long as they treated everybody who could...
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    I never talk to Jesus or the Holy Spirit

    Why is Steven's case so special? Your answer seems to fit any number of cases that might be possible. I.e., if a semi-truck is about to hit your car at 70 mph, or you start to have a heart attack, or if the airplane you're in is about to crash. God could have raised Steven like He did others...
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    Are to serious? Peter didn't need rebuking to tell his story. Acts 11:18 (KJV) When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life. Or this time: Acts 15:6-7 (KJV) 6 And the apostles and elders came...
  11. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    You don't know that.
  12. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    Acts 11:19 is descriptive again. It followed the prescriptive commission in Acts 1:8. But that doesn't mean they wanted to do it. It took a number of acts of God to get them to go to the Gentiles. Finally Jesus had to appear to Saul in order to get anyone to go, beyond the direct command and...
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    I'll let the death business alone for a different thread. Here's where Jesus gave the gospel to the Samaritan woman. John 4:14 (KJV) But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up...
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    And that was both prescriptively and descriptively overridden. Acts 1:8 (KJV) But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. Acts 8:5 (KJV)...
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    And that's descriptive, but not prescriptive.
  16. Derf

    These are NOT the same gospel

    This tells me I'm not explaining things very well. I don't think the body is everything. I recognize that there's a part of us that is immaterial. But I'm saying the immaterial parts don't function without the material parts, and neither do the material without the immaterial. Yet Jesus went...
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    How could Jesus at one time tell the Jews to go to the ends of the earth to tell them how to be saved without wanting the Jews to love them? Why would he give them the story of the Good Samaritan without wanting his disciples to love Samaritans? It's interesting that @Right Divider has bowed...
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    Only as a matter of degree. Being saved unto eternal life is exactly the same on an ongoing basis as being saved from a single death.
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    Then it seems like the dichotomy is a useless one. And pointing out that those letters are written to Israelites is unnecessarily divisive, which John seemed to be writing against.
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    These are NOT the same gospel

    Why did John spend so much ink on telling Israelites to love one another? I guess your post is an admission, however slight, that they weren't only written to Israelites, but were focused on Israel. That might be progress.
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