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I just did. You agreed with me. Your thread should be closed now. No. That would be for a thread about true morality. Yours is only about atheist morality. You only accept the conditions you want to accept. Why is that less pretentious? No, I'm talking about your view of nature. There's not...

For sure. Just as it was meant, following this: John 11:25 (NKJV) Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live.

Does that make it wrong? "Much of the theology of the Seventh-day Adventist Church corresponds to common evangelical Christian teachings, such as the Trinityand the infallibility of Scripture." Is the trinity wrong because the SDAs believe it?

How does it use it in Luke 16:23? Who is the subject?

I'd like to see your evidence "according to Him". Ok, let's try the next step, Dad. "If you don't want me to torture my brother, is it ok if I just lock him in his room? No? What if I just hate him in my mind, with no external manifestations?" Yep. That's the same pattern I was heading down...

How do you value obeying the Lord Jesus by disobeying the Lord Jesus, even in small ways? Do you have children? What if one of them said to you, "I agree that it would be wrong to murder my brother, so I'm just going to torture him instead. It's still wrong, but at least it isn't murdering him."...

That's your opinion. No, it's etched in stone. Thus, in your morality, death is actually advantageous. In mine it is something to be avoided and defeated. In yours, the "less" good should die to help the "better". In mine, the better die to help the lesser. Nope. If you cannot live forever...

Not to mention being unable to control how I was born, say, as a murderer, or thief. But perhaps there's a silver lining now that we are only what we identify as rather than how we are born.

I think I agree with you about 2 categories of sins, and perhaps about scrupulocity, but with this exception--God recognizes 1. Sin that is intentional vs 2. Sin that is committed in ignorance. Your swearing, if a sin at all, would be the intentional type the way you described it. And those are...

Meaning that Catholicism encourages people to sin, at least in little ways? Mark 9:42 (ESV) “Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him if a great millstone were hung around his neck and he were thrown into the sea.

It only seems to fit here if continuing to sin the little sins is part of the joys of Catholicism.

Maybe a good idea to move it to another thread. What you said made me think of Dave Ramsey's approach to paying off debt--start with the baby steps. Iow, pay off the easier debts to pay off, then apply that payment that was freed up to the next easiest, etc., not stopping until all debt is...

I've heard that from others. But I question whether they make excuses for themselves without being willing to let the Holy Spirit work in them to clean their speech. And it seems like Catholics do it more than other denominations.

mostly sarcastic/joking, but Paul did vows where he shaved his head. A vow is synonymous with "oath". I agree that if you have to swear about something you say, it diminishes your word for all the times you don't swear, which is Jesus' and James' point. That was one of the reasons I got fired a...

That's just for Jews. Not for the BOC. 😉

Seems non sequiturial to me. Want to explain?

"So help me God."

But unless you keep it with the declaration, it's just another man-based system, which can be overthrown by a different one.

This is true, but then there's nothing to elevate that person's beliefs over any other person's, including someone's who doesn't believe in human rights.

The US Constitution was secondary to the Declaration of Independence, which did have such a requirement.