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This is what I'm talking about your side being dogmatic in light of very little data. It would be wiser to say you don't think the evidence supports a canopy, not that there is no evidence for a canopy at all. And that you doubt the phrase "windows of heaven" refers to a canopy, not that that...

Sure. You act as if I'm saying Dr. Brown's view has no biblical or scientific support. It does. But so does a canopy, despite your insistence otherwise. It would be better for the two camps to acknowledge we have little data to go on and both sides take a "we'll see" attitude while placing or...

I think Stripe was juxtaposing his view to having no pressure combined with no destabilizing forces.

The idea of a canopy is neither unbiblical nor unscientific. Biblically, the canopy could be what the windows of heaven refers to. There is room for different interpretations of that phrase. And scientifically, there should be answers for some of the anomalies we see from the preflood world. A...

The pre flood atmosphere could very well have had other factors that counteracted the greenhouse effect. We just don't know what it was like. And, please, you don't have to mention "nowhere near enough to flood it" when discussing this topic with me. We both agree on that already as I've tried...

I think "instantly" is a bit dramatic.

I know, I have the book. I have been referring to it for years. The section on radio carbon dating is excellent and I think some other ideas complete what he says in that part. The windows of heaven were opened. That's pretty much it for scripture. And I think there are some forensic claims...

It had to be if there was a canopy. It might be the reason carbon dates for pre-flood material are off. Ok. I don't think that applies to me, though.

I had never known people interpreted those passages that way until I heard it here on TOL. So that's not it is always based on.

I think that depends on the mix of gases. Humans can stay in barometric chambers indefinitely.

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I would tend to say that the water canopy (I'm not saying Canopy Theory since that evokes ideas that the canopy was the main driver of the flood when it was just a footnote on the water it provided) could also contribute to the solutions that were attributed to it. So it doesn't need to be...

Huh? Of course it doesn't diminish HPT. It supports it. Yes, we agree on this 100%.

I mean fragile relative to no water under the crust. Had it not been for the water under the crust, it would not have broken

Ok. I'd say if it were the crust opening like a window (not a modern window but a small opening in a structure that would let light or air through) that would somehow be different than the walls of heaven? What I'm trying to say is that God knew what a window was and would not have described...

I think there was a water canopy of some sort as well. But be careful about saying "canopy theory" because that has, in general, a meaning that the flood waters came in large part from said canopy. I think there was a canopy of some sort because of the passage that touches on the windows of...

Again? Did I say it was all Biden's fault to begin with?

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I wasn't going to waste my time looking up your posts, but as I predicted you'd say something wrong in short order as demonstrated in the Oil Prices thread.