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YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN!!!! It is precisely the opposite of a false dichotomy. He whom we call Jesus has existed FOREVER and will do so FOREVER MORE! He is the One Who created all things. While He was in the flesh, Jesus Himself claimed to have existed BEFORE Abraham. He is the "I am." and...

The point is that He did exist. He existed as God, the Creator of everything that exists that isn't God.

You got it. So, how does one get their hands on this index that you've created? Best chapter of the whole book, if you ask me. Yeah, I don't think there are any major changes, although I did find what I think is a typo or a miss wording or whatever you want to call it. Near the end of...

Oh man, I wish I read as fast as you do! I remember when I got my first copy of The Plot. I worked in a call center on the overnight shift. It was basically like collecting a welfare check because after about 10:00pm the phone barely ever rang at all. I got paid to sit and watch Nick at Night...

The Plot by Bob Enyart

The purpose of this thread is to discuss Bob Enyart's book, The Plot. The book, I believe, is the best theological treatise written since Martin Luther nailed something on the door of a church somewhere. If you have read his book then your participation here is welcome and encouraged. If you...

That is the most intellectually dishonest thing anyone has said on this website in six months (or more). Ignorance turns in a flash to stupidity. I DO NOT believe that you've read his book to any large extent. If you did at all, you very likely skipped over the first four chapters and found...

Oh man! It's been the theme of my life practically. Very lonely in that regard! By the way, I just got a copy of the second edition of The Plot and so am reading it through again myself. We'll have to start a thread to discuss it and to address any questions that come up.

I can't spoil the fun! Just do me a favor and read the first four chapters FIRST! Don't skip ahead. After that, you can skip around if you want but whatever you do, read the first four chapters before reading anything else. Same goes for you! If you're ever in the Houston area, I'll take you...

You flat out do not have any idea what you're talking about. Seriously. Ignorance (i.e. not stupidity) on parade. Ignorance can be fixed! If you're any sort of dispensationalists at all, you simply have to read Bob's book! What you say has "no biblical reason" and that "confuses the matter"...

I love that question! I'm not going to try to answer it but I just had to comment on it. I enjoy the way you think! Why won't I try to answer it, you might be asking yourself.... Here's the problem. It's a detail. Baptism is one single doctrinal detail that the whole church has divided and...

I know Doug McBurney personally. Which is to say that I've met him several times and even spent the night at his house once when visiting Denver. He, Bob Enyart and I have agreed to meet 10,000 yrs from now to reminisce about our lives here on Earth and how miniscule our physical lives here will...

Somehow, I had a feeling that you would! (y) In addition to being an open theist, are you also a mid-Acts dispensationalist?

You worship your church as God. That isn't going to work out too well for you. I Corinthians 3:10 According to the grace of God which was given to me, as a wise master builder I [Paul] have laid the foundation, and another builds on it. But let each one take heed how he builds on it. 11 For no...

Have you ever thought about the fact that the doctrine of Sola Scriptura is self contradictory in that it is itself not biblical? As John Sanders said... "The openness model is an attempt to provide a more biblically faithful, rationally coherent, and practically satisfying account of God and...

No, it doesn't amaze you. You are pushing what you know is blatantly heretical nonsense about being dead means that you don't exist at all and want to play games with my words as though I've adopted your twisted definitions of terms. Perhaps you're used to dealing with people who are stupid or...

Derf, You are not a Christian. The things you say are simply not compatible with Christian doctrine. Jesus is God in the flesh. Jesus died in every way that any other righteous person has ever died. He was separated from the Father (spiritual death) and His spirit separated from His physical...

Jesus said repeatedly the He and the Father are One. There are not three Gods, there is ONE God. Jesus is THAT SINGULAR God. Jesus is God Himself and chose to become a man and die for your sin. That's the gospel. Deny it at your own peril. Clete

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Jesus is God! Implying that Jesus was/is anything other than THE Creator God in the flesh is blasphemy. Outright denial of it is not only blasphemy but a rejection of the Gospel itself. John 1: 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the...