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And whenever you are responding to someone's posts, it helps to use the "Reply" button at the bottom of their post to quote their post in your reply.

Well, someone might call it love, but only because they were programmed to.

That's not the problem. I own one, but it tends to stay in the garage because I don't trust it to run correctly.

You don't think it is God's will that we don't murder? And isn't that revealed in the bible?

Why is it good news that they must obey the law of Moses, when Paul offers a good news where they do not? Who would be stupid enough to choose that deal, when no one can actually keep the law but the perfect Son of God? Just like Paul looked forward to a future salvation. 1 Thessalonians 5:8-9...

I disagree. I think it's the same kind of faith, the kind that saves apart from works, but that kind of faith always produces works. Abraham was justified by faith, perhaps in the eyes of God, but it is apparent to us that he believed in that he acted on his faith. And perhaps it was apparent to...

My choice? Not if the choice was known ("determined") prior to my existence. Then it was someone else's choice. Open Theism is the only way it is a personal ("my") choice. That's what you get with Open Theism.

Do you think, though, that the idea of Mardi Gras is a perverse way to start a festival of sacrifice?

I love it when you do such a good post. I don't agree with all you said, but yours is a post-of-the-day imo.

Did you read my whole post? Those two statements refer to the two different ways if interpreting what James wrote. Please go back and reread.

It seems like you have been leaning that way for awhile. And maybe you are, but I wonder how long you will stay. You are correct, of course, that considering other views can help to solidify one's own, but hopefully only by their bad arguments. If we solidify our own positions when there are...

You are proposing, if I understand you correctly, that James is telling his audience how to be saved. If that is the case, then they are not saved already. If they are not saved already, and he is telling them how to be saved using a different gospel than Paul's, they won't be saved, since that...

That's not true. You can start and stop playing the game whenever you wish. The developers don't determine whether you play or when. If they did, it would be a loss of freedom, yes?

And? Why is that a problem?

Isn't that what he said? And the Scripture, ...preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, “In you all the nations shall be blessed.” Jews (Israel) are a nation, aren't they? Genesis 25:23 KJV — And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be...

I agree with all of that, Lon. Which means, I think, that it has to apply to everyone. Which means that James, if he is saying that works are required for achieving salvation, is damning Jewish souls to hell by his letter...IF YOU READ IT LIKE @Clete AND @JudgeRightly ARE SAYING. But if you read...

But you're not reading the whole thing. James clearly points out that Abraham believed God and it was reckoned to him as righteousness. [Jas 2:23 KJV] And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of...

We assume that what they ate was the commanded lamb, but there's little in the gospel accounts that talks of any lamb at the last supper. Jesus focused on the bread, and didn't mention the lamb. That seems strange to me, since we are all sure that Jesus was clearly fore-typed by the passover lamb.

That's not what James was saying. He was saying you can't show faith without works. The kind that doesn't produce works is the kind that does not save. Notice that production follows salvation, even for James. But you and others are saying that James was saying that about Paul's followers...

But at least he's admitting that their gospel was a false one, which is assured if they are false brethren preaching a gospel different from Paul's.