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Those that are unable to explain and use the deficiency of the hearer as an excuse are not even useful in the discussion.

@7djengo7 If Revelation 20 details the full gamut of resurrection events post-Christ's, and the BOC's resurrection must be the first of the two, then it seems like the church will go through the tribulation. If instead, the BOC does not go through the tribulation, we must be looking at a third...

Agreed. They would have missed the "moment" and would be relegated to the next available resurrection, the one at the end of the Millennium. Although, depending on how you read Revelation, it seems like the "first" resurrection might be split into multiple episodes. 👍 I see a way for the...

Interesting idea. Might it even be a testimony to those who are not participating? And if so, wouldn't there also be new believers because of it? I think that is unlikely to be a problem, because "we who are alive and remain" would likely already have been changed, as Paul mentions here: 1...

Hardly. Else many who reject Christ by faith in something untrustworthy would be justified.

Of course Paul, not having said "alone", left room for the other things required for our justification, like: Romans 5:9 KJV — Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. And: Romans 3:24 KJV — Being justified freely by his grace through the...

Only Enoch didn't actually make the cut: Ezekiel 14:14 KJV — Though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they should deliver but their own souls by their righteousness, saith the Lord GOD. John at least doubted. Noah got drunk and didn't stop his son from "seeing his nakedness"...

But a good vine sometimes produces branches that need to be pruned or cast off and tossed in the fire. John 15:6 KJV — If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

Lifetime congressmen don't actually have coworkers.

https://www.ranker.com/list/us-presidents-by-iq/lauren-slocum What is funny is the last entry: 45th and last is Joe Biden, 'alleged IQ unknown"

Really? Maybe some pushups, too? https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-challenges-83-old-democrat-192400152.html

Sure I can, but that's far from "I changed my mind, which ChatGPT acknowledges means exactly what you told me you would accept as a substitute. Yes, it has, even according to ChatGPT, as you quoted: ChatGPT is telling you, that if you take your assertions at face value, it is absurd, but that...

I address this below. I don't think I was too hasty. Hunh. You must be the only person on earth that doesn't. He does, and many here have pointed it out. To which you have decided to go off on a tangent about the phrase "change one's mind." No, it doesn't. I don't think of anyone that tells...

It seems there are some "vs". Like: "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" vs "Mary was sinless from conception".

I went back and read it. You missed an important caveat: with classical theism, it is absurd. Perhaps that's why you dislike the idea so, because it makes your theology absurd (don't blame me, blame chatgpt). The absurdity of classical Theism when compared with the intent of the biblical texts...

Welcome back, Lon. How about "repent"? How about "decided to change his path or direction"? How about "regret"? How about "relent"? All of those are acceptable to Open Theists. All of those are used in various translations of various passages with respect to God. Yes, you can. We speak that...

Here's where he gets the comparison wrong: "The Settled Theist can live a relaxing life of true joy, of true love, of a sure faith, and an unwavering hope..." There's no true joy, true love, sure faith, or hope of any kind if joy, love, faith, and hope were all determined ("settled") for you...

That's an interesting point. If indeed they NEVER asked or wanted to be saved, then I don't see why God would save them.

Agreed. It's as if the death of Christ only covers Adam's sin, or all past sins of the baby's ancestors, and the baby, as he grows, has to do penance to pay for the rest of his sins.

I don't see why they don't have robot medics, too.