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That's fine. Regarding getting off on the right foot, just know that if you agree with everyone, you're not providing any useful inputs. We respect well-thought inputs, and we try to provide the same, with human frailties, of course.

I'm the one that always had to clean up the barf, though.

Welcome aboard! Re: "I'm not a Christian". Start a thread and let's talk about it. Tell us why not. I'm curious.

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Where's the "groan" response when you need it'

I can laugh at this, since I'm over 60 and married. But I'm still trying to figure out why a bowling ball illustrates the speed of light. Probably a suggestion for where those Christian boys should take the girls out to?

Although a lot of sinful acts are not God's purpose, but He can still make good come from them.

You have to keep recounting until you get the result you want.

Ouch. It sure is a good thing we know who has the power to set things right and raise the dead. My your great-granddaughter be blessed by your care for her and you as well.

If they've found actual truth that doesn't fit with Catholicism, give up on Catholicism. Yep. And in spite of the danger that they might bring to the faithful of your household? If the master says it's your duty, and you're in complete control and neglect your duty, are you being more...

A "new" expression. One that ISN'T eternal (the heavens and earth has a beginning and will be destroyed by fire). Sounds like a change to me.

And you're saying that at least some of those spiritual beings with real freedom could sin without a tempter, right? Maybe not some, but at least one? I rest my case.

Certainly. But could there have been? Hard to know. To say "the way things worked out is the only way things could have worked out" is to presuppose Calvinistic determinism, and probably God being bound by it Himself, eternally.

With a nod to @JudgeRightly, Jesus listened to Satan (heard what he said, since He replied to it), but He didn't listen to Satan (to do what he said). Thus sin, which Adam and Eve did, made them and all of us stupid, despite it being a tree of knowledge. But fear of the Lord is the beginning...

I didn't view the video, but Bob Enyart agreed with Bohnhoeffer by saying "Stupid doesn't make you sin, but sin makes you stupid."

What do you do with a child (whom you love) who won't take correction? Perhaps. Good point. Lust is already a sin, though (Thou shalt not covet). When Jesus was growing up, probably fairly poor, did He have opportunity to envy the possessions of others? And aren't we told about His struggle...

(@Lon, too) James tells us we are tempted by our own desires. James 1:14-15 KJV — But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. Satan isn't needed for us to...

I still don't see it as an act of love to even call such things shrewd. Just like saying "the serpent was more subtil than any other animal" is not expressing love, but a mere statement of fact.

Maybe long-winded, meandering posts indicate that very thing--trying to wrap one's mind around a foreign concept. I'd be hesitant to say people CAN'T move off their position, but there's plenty of evidence that it's very difficult for them (and us) to do.

If the servant was loving from the beginning, he was choosing to do so. I can't tell where the servant went from no-love to love. But wherever it was, it was his choice...and he didn't have to do it from love. This seems to be what's going on when Christians are told to "do all things as unto...