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I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. Can you reiterate?

There are certainly funny ways of saying things, and mockery isn't without its place, but I don't understand why it's funny to say Jesus was living out grace.

I'm curious, @JudgeRightly. Why is that funny to you?

Yes. It means that if faith doesn't change how you act, it's dead.

I just don't think it makes sense to think that God is faithful to save us when we don't believe in Him anymore. That's not to say that we don't always act out our faith correctly, but if someone once believed, then no longer believes, what does that make him? Certainly not a "believer". Our...

"Not happened yet" = future tense.

Yes, @glorydaz, people have been tortured for less!

I suppose your point is that Paul had a different gospel because he called it "my gospel". Do you worship Paul's different God? Romans 1:8 KJV — First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world. 1 Corinthians 1:4 KJV — I thank my God...

Philippians 3:9-13 KJV — And be found (future tense) in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: That I may know him (future tense), and the power of his resurrection, and the...

Their salvation could never be obtained by their works: Hebrews 9:8-9 KJV — The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing: Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both...

Prodigal son? Grace! Woman at the well? Grace! Woman caught in adultery? Grace! He didn't have to preach it, He lived it.

Just received one of those.

You're suggesting, I suppose, that "no more of" means that at one time it was of works. I don't think that phrase means that.

I understand wanting to vent. I don't think you can say the RCC has no truth, nor can you say Satan isn't in many other denominations, which by your standard means they have no truth. But many (most?) denominations have their hobby horses, many of which are distractions, if not outright wrong...

I came to TOL to think through ideas, and stayed because the format allows for more spirited discussion. Welcome back.

It wasn't verbalized in the same way, but that doesn't mean grace was absent in the other forms of the gospel. That makes us look at what the good news in each case is all about. If salvation is by works some of the time, and not by works other times, then I will have to admit that there are...

You've merely said that we don't do it (worship the church), but gave no reason why? If the bread becomes the body (however it happens), and sinners become the body (however it happens), and if we should worship the bread because it is His body, we should worship the church.

I think @Ps82 is seeing those born in the garden as "sons of God", because they didn't have a sin nature, and weren't subject to death because of Adam's sin. And after Adam sinned, he had a son "in his own image", including being subject to death. I don't know why that would produce giants, but...

You slipped into a different thread.

Why not? Are you saying domes can't have balls in them? I can show you they can. But more importantly, if the dome is also a ball (sphere), then at any point on the surface of a ball (sphere) earth, the viewer would see a dome above.