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Who cares about "Derf's" Choice when you are stacked up against "God's" choice? Is that supposed to be preferable? Let's visit it with me: Who cares about "Lon's" choice stacked up against God's choice or will? Anybody? Anybody at all? Even in my case, not even me. His will is way...

And you can check out of this life as well, most do not. If you do, your choice: stop playing, as the analogy is appropriate and goes.

I know that is what Open Theists believe that, and I know the reasons they make that assertion, but one does not at all lead to the other. Example: I play a video game that is huge. There is nothing I can do in that game that developers didn't place there. It never means loss of my...

--I believe JR did a good job with this already, and I had intended to write something along the same line but shorter when I came across this link. It does a nice a job.

Edited here for emphasis. This is so important! For me: It isn't perfectly possible until we are saved: New natured persons do new natured works that we want to do in following our Savior. Amen! My bolded emphasis If you all would allow, a small augmentation: "Salvation" is not...

Woot! Of course I'm happy you say that for obvious reasons :) Also happy news. True enough. I have no problem with you questioning such, just ask that you consider, planting a seed as it were... I think you 'can' but thank you for considering. You don't have to become Mid Acts. I'm...

Read Acts 15? Was there a difference? What was it? Why was it different? You don't have to be, just entertain the difference to understand why Mid Acts sees this as important.

Nick is answering similarly... "...First to the Jew..." Romans 1:16 Realize this is more of a Mid Acts vs than an Open disagreement on point. You'd not be Mid Acts on point.

No. Not where Open Theism is concerned. It is about a "God Who Risks" for man. My question is about the draw. "What is the point of Open Theism?" Literally 'me and my freewill' and especially my freewill volition which is apparently (I wholly disagree) is the definition of love (it...

"Judaism" Jews were the seat of God's interaction with man in Jewish conversion (gentiles didn't seek them out, no Apostle purposefully went after gentiles but Philip, until the Apostle Paul. Also realize Jews were dispersed 0.o

Nope. I can understand English. You cannot. Fact. I taught kids like you. You frankly, don't know English. You are all black by yourself. LOL, there you go, proving my point. You don't even know how much college or seminary costs. Correctly assessing your earned grades is NOT ad...

This isn't in agreement among Mid Acts. In among there is a book 'to' Hebrews and others among it. James clearly said "to the twelve tribes." Etc. *This question, btw, makes me 'well within' Mid Acts theology, meaning I'm accepting of the MAD moniker: *How many apostles do you have...

You read the Bible out of context. You didn't do well in English class. Nobody who about flunked English should be positing. "Let me guess" can be wrong, but no, you have earmarks that place you within 'handles.' Well within. You don't have to care so much except as the shoe fits...

That is the way I'd heard it too.

Yes, exactly: At least we see apparent contradictions. My question was to rather give example and then ask: "What do you mean by no contradiction?" I think rather, we mean "The Bible is consistently true, even if it records something like a lie" rather than that it doesn't contain...

I believe it all boils down to 'how we perceive love' (see my conversation with Derf above). Does God have to 'perform' to be loved? Derf says 'yes.' I say "NO!" (emphatically). Love is the impetus behind the action: "God is love." He doesn't have to 'do' anything to be loved, He...

An inconsistency? There are none? Did Judas hang himself or spill his guts? The two 'seem' contradictory, but are they? The Bible also records others as 'lying' (a contradiction against what is true), like Rahab who lied and said the spies were not with her. How do you see these...

First Psalms, yes God loves all His creation. Didn't do biology? Two points: 1) There was a tree, necessary for God to be in the Garden. 2) There was a prohibition to eat of it. Yeah. It. Is. Haven't studied it enough? Most of Open Theism comes from the O.T. The New Testament has Jesus...

:doh: Let me guess, Pentecostal Charismatic as well? You don't know what 2 Peter 1:19 means! Read it again 16-21 Of course. A 'person' is a 'being.' It is an existence word. How well did you do in English class? I do. You obviously don't, making up abundantly for your lack? Learn...

So if I become Open Theist, I win the doubling-down award? Look: Flames are flames. You were asking something about God being among flames. "Oh, Nick! I seem to remember a previous scenario like you are asking...." If Open Theism is only as good as the latest greatest 'gotcha...