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  1. Clete

    God's miracles in my life

    Attributing to God fake miracles is to lie and give God the credit for it. That sounds like a sin to me, Gary! (For those who don't know, Gary claims, not only to experience miracles on a daily basis, but to be a prophet and to never commit any sin.)
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    God's miracles in my life

    This thread proves that Gary has no idea what a miracle is.
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    what is the meaning of John 3:3 ?

    He connects it with Christ's resurrection! Last time I checked that happened at some point in the past. And why do you ignore Jesus' response to Nicodemus in John 3? 5 Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of...
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    On the omniscience of God

    You are on ignore and will remain there (i.e. meaning that I will not read most of your posts). However.... Once again, I feel as though I'm having a discussion with a lawyer. I did not say that I have no major disagreements with other Open Theists. That's you drawing yet another caricature of...
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    On the omniscience of God

    When you're reading the passage, it reads as though God is actually asking the question. There is no indication, either contextually or grammatically, that He is asking it rhetorically. It does not explain any such thing. It's almost sneaky how one's a priori doctrines get read into a passage...
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    Our Moral God

    You pushed me about a mile past it. So long! Have a nice life!
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    On the omniscience of God

    I do not understand how one can live with such double mindedness. Acknowledging that there are things about God that we have no means to know or understand cannot be applied to whatever cherry picked doctrine that we decide we want to leave as irrational and self-contradictory. It is not...
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    Our Moral God

    You just couldn't go without making one more stab at pointing out "commonalities", could you? I'm literally at the end of my patience with it, Lon. This right here is your very last warning. If you say one single addition syllable anywhere along these lines, I'll put you on ignore and be done...
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    On the omniscience of God

    No one is ever free to do that, particularly if they have no free will. I do not believe that you have anything other than your doctrine to lend weight to that side of the interpretation scale. I have the plain reading of the text and there is no implication of that plain reading that in anyway...
  10. Clete

    Time doesn't exist.

    That is a brilliant point! I'm going to use that one in the future!
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    On the omniscience of God

    So nothing of God can be known. Is that really what you believe? If so, how did you come to believe that? If not, by what means can anything be know about God that doesn't fly in the face of what you said here? I do not deny that "Adam, quit trying to hide." may be what is meant in that...
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    On the omniscience of God

    We are perfectly capable of using the mind's God gave us. Sound reason works. If so, God is unjust. It would be impossible for you to show any such thing, as I have demonstrated in my previous post. God is not always right either, Lon! Biblically, God knowing the future is just about exactly...
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    Our Moral God

    Okay, so first of all, regular typos aside, you need to pay closer attention to your sentence structure. This is barely readable. Secondly, and far more important, all of what you said here is precisely the reason why such dialogues are stupidity on parade! Your entire premise here is that the...
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    On the omniscience of God

    True, but the etymology of a term doesn't always convey what is actually meant when the term is used. Open Theists accept the use of the term "Omniscient" in that we believe that God knows all knowable things. It's just that we have different ideas about what is knowable. Some of us also add an...
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    Our Moral God

    Open Theists do not reject the omnis in a fashion akin to the Mormons! This way of thinking doesn't work anyway. Would you put yourself in the same category as the Mormons because you pray to a guy named Jesus? I mean, do you know anything at all about what the Mormons teach? The Mormons are the...
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    Our Moral God

    Yes, you're getting my point, exactly! I do fully acknowledge that the analogy is an imperfect one, as are almost all analogies.
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    Our Moral God

    I don't think so! Then why bring it up in the first place? No one compares Open Theism to Mormonism because they both believe that God exists. No one compares Open Theism to Mormonism because they both accept the fact that someone named Jesus died on a cross. There are a thousand possible...
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    Our Moral God

    That isn't an answer. Why aren't they compatible? It wasn't those two things I was comparing anyway, it was the fact that when you mix them together in a bowl, you are left with a lump of dough (one thing) rather than a bowl with two things in it. The fact that I picked eggs and flour is...
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    Our Moral God

    Okay, fine. Don't use it. It doesn't matter. It has no effect on the doctrine anyway, so if you want to believe that God already knew the answer to His question then that's no skin off my nose. At the end of the day it makes no difference one way or the other because our doctrine is not based on...
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    Our Moral God

    Why? The only way they are alike is in that when you add one to the other, you end up with one thing. If you take oil and mix in water, they don't mix. They remain quite separate. If I have a glass that is half full of water and I fill it the rest of the way with oil, now I have a class with...
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