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  1. Clete

    Is there any obvious evidence today for the biblical global Flood?

    No, that isn't what I'm saying. It doesn't have to be one object. It could be one object or it could be millions of smaller objects. Regardless, the total mass is the same and it would had to have all gone up at pretty much precisely the same time or else it could never have coalesced into a...
  2. Clete

    Is there any obvious evidence today for the biblical global Flood?

    This entire post argues MY point!!!! You are at least beginning to acknowledge the premise! You say it was a sixty mile barrel along which this material was accelerated. Fine. Let's go with that. Let's also use the 18 miles per second that seems clear is the minimum about of velocity these...
  3. Clete

    Is there any obvious evidence today for the biblical global Flood?

    I read every syllable of it. Every single syllable. It has been years ago. When it was new but I did read every single word. It is irrelevant because the material could never have made it off the planet in the form of rock and dust (much less liguid water or ice) given the proposed method of...
  4. Clete

    Is there any obvious evidence today for the biblical global Flood?

    I do not merely make the claim, I make an argument to support it. An argument you've not responded to except to claim that it "simply isn't true". Yes it is true. It absolutely has to be true. I cannot be otherwise. If you think otherwise then you tell me how any material exploded off the top...
  5. Clete

    Is there any obvious evidence today for the biblical global Flood?

    I HAVE seen these videos before and I have read the entire book, which I own two copies of. I'm telling you, I understand the theory and I'm telling you that it (the formation of what would become comets and asteroids) cannot have happened the way the theory proposes. It makes logical sense but...
  6. Clete

    Is there any obvious evidence today for the biblical global Flood?

    I understand that specific point but GPT's comment isn't quite the point I'm making. First of all, I do not believe that comets are collections of loosely bound rocks, dust and ice but leaving that aside and granting the notion for the sake of argument, the point I am making is that there...
  7. Clete

    Is there any obvious evidence today for the biblical global Flood?

    I've used it quite a lot for various things. It's right a lot more than not IF you ask the questions correctly. The prompt (i.e. the question you ask) is enormously important and if you ask the same question a second (or sometimes a third time) in the same exchange, it gets better at figuring...
  8. Clete

    Is there any obvious evidence today for the biblical global Flood?

    No, it would be just one, more or less ancillary, aspect of the theory that was incorrect. The origin of comets is in no way foundational to the theory. On the contrary, the book is what engendered my objections. More precisely, the books lack of evidentiary argument. In short, it makes the...
  9. Clete

    On the omniscience of God

    Once again, it seems anyone interested in tackling this topic or engaging me in discussion finds some way to get banned before I even get a chance to respond. You cannot have it both ways. You can't have both countless continuous decisions being made on one hand and then immediately claim that...
  10. Clete

    Our Moral God

    Said another way.... All words have a range of meaning. The actual meaning is determined by the context in which it used. In short, changing the topic of discussion doesn't count as a rebuttal of an argument.
  11. Clete

    Is there any obvious evidence today for the biblical global Flood?

    Two things. First I'm not so sure that it's that huge of a blunder. Second, I'm not so sure that my objection is valid. In fact, the most important factor in my skepticism on the theories ideas about the origin of comets and asteroids has to do with the fact that no one seems to be able to...
  12. Clete

    Is there any obvious evidence today for the biblical global Flood?

    Even if that were true, it's the same thing. His education vs mine is irrelevant to the truth or falsehood of that which is in dispute. Ah! That makes sense. No, I don't have a good recollection of our previous conversation, by the way. Sorry. Well, the problem isn't merely achieving orbit...
  13. Clete

    Can man posses a libertarian freewill when his creator, God, does not?

    You need to look up the definition of the word rant. You clearly have it wrong. Your definition of the word "sovereign" is also wrong. God is sovereign but it doesn't mean that He's a control freak like your Neo-platonic doctrine teaches. LOL!!!! You literally have no idea what you're talking...
  14. Clete

    Can man posses a libertarian freewill when his creator, God, does not?

    And you teach blasphemy to your church, pretend to be intellectual honest while completely ignoring arguments, present literal stupidity as good doctrine, get offended when someone calls you out on it and then accuse them of doing what you do all day every day. God is no liar! Not in the...
  15. Clete

    Is there any obvious evidence today for the biblical global Flood?

    Appeal to authority. Unconvincing. 300 million trillion (300 quintillion) tons of TNT? Is that a number the Dr. Brown produced? If so, does he give any evidence that such an amount of energy could/would actually be produced, given the theorized scenario? If so, would you happen to know just...
  16. Clete

    Can man posses a libertarian freewill when his creator, God, does not?

    Nonsense. You're intentionally ignoring the arguments you have no answer for. Contradict yourself much? God heard the proposal but it never touched His mind? Is that really what you want us to believe? How would He have decided to approve the plan if the concept of a lie isn't allowed to enter...
  17. Clete

    Can man posses a libertarian freewill when his creator, God, does not?

    Nonsense. This spirit was in conference with God and they were discussing methods of defeating this king. A proposal was made and God agreed and commanded that it be done. Had God commanded otherwise then the lie would not have been told but He didn't command otherwise. He commanded to spirit go...
  18. Clete

    Can man posses a libertarian freewill when his creator, God, does not?

    No, you are lying. Like I said, we here at TOL aren't nearly as stupid as the people you teach this stupidity to at your church. You were presented with precisely the opposite of what your statements claim. You aren't stupid enough for that to happen by accident. You're a liar. That's a fact.
  19. Clete

    Can man posses a libertarian freewill when his creator, God, does not?

    Dialogue requires both parties to be responsive to what the other has said. What you are doing isn't dialogue, it's stupidity and lying. Not that it's surprising that you ignore major points and direct questions. You have no answers to offer and are unwilling to even consider that your doctrine...
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