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    The Bible Fact of Different Gospels

    You can believe in the tooth fairy if that's what you want to believe. It doesn't make it true. Of course the prophets had a huge impact on what people believed but that doesn't mean that anyone was expecting a suffering Messiah. They simply were not and, even if some few may have been, the...
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    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    Define "submission" and "His will". Faith is NOT about what you do, it is about what you believe. Any other teaching amounts to law rather than grace and mixes that which was intended for Israel with that which pertains to the Body of Christ. The result is almost always one form or another of...
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    On the omniscience of God

    It isn't my demand and I didn't define justice. God Himself states explicitly that grace is offered to all and the only reason you think otherwise is because you need for some reason to insist that God is immutable and that doctrine has certain ancillary doctrines that in turn force you to...
  4. Clete

    On the omniscience of God

    Which is exactly the point we've all been making!
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    The Bible Fact of Different Gospels

    I don't think so. I think its usually beef and things like chicken soup and salads and of course, plenty of wine.
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    The Bible Fact of Different Gospels

    What I just said is what Jesus meant. Christ's death and resurrection is what made salvation possible for everyone, including Abraham but Abraham was not aware of that being God's plan. Abraham believed God when God told him that he would have a son and that belief was credited to him as...
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    The Bible Fact of Different Gospels

    I can't imagine that the marriage feast of the Lamb will be vegetarian in nature. It seems natural to assume that it will be similar to traditional Jewish wedding feasts.
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    The Bible Fact of Different Gospels

    Nothing a Catholic does amazes me anymore. They are completely irrational. They believe what they want to believe and nothing else and for no reason other than that's what they want to believe. No evidence nor any argument can move them a single inch from whatever dogma they've chosen for...
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    The Bible Fact of Different Gospels

    No one "looked forward" to the death burial and resurrection of Christ for their salvation. That future event was what made their salvation possible but they didn't know that. Not even the apostles believed it prior to it actually happening and even then they didn't believe it until they saw the...
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    The Bible Fact of Different Gospels

    There are tons of examples I could have listed, the above being only one of dozens.
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    The Bible Fact of Different Gospels

    Wrong! The concept of blood sacrifice came a long long time before the Law (capital L - referring to the Law of Moses). It is justice that requires death for sin. The Law is just but the point is that justice existed way before the Law existed and both the Law and the sacrifice made at Calvary...
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    The Bible Fact of Different Gospels

    You're as blind as a bat. That isn't at all what you said. In less than three decades your idiot Popes have taken the death penalty from a legitimate punishment for capital crimes to it's complete abolition! The later of which specifically cites the fact that we are created in God's image as the...
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    The Bible Fact of Different Gospels

    This is true but it has not always been that which much be believed in. Jesus didn't preach His death and resurrection as the gospel and when He did bring up the fact that He would be killed, the Apostles didn't believe Him and so we know that they weren't preaching it either. Also, none of the...
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    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    That is a distinction without a difference. Christ is the sacrifice. No. Faith is believing that God (Jesus) died the death that you deserve and that God raised Him from the dead. I have listened to him many times. He is (was) an Acts 2 dispensationalist. I am a Mid-Acts Dispensationalist...
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    The Bible Fact of Different Gospels

    The pre-1997 Catechism of the Catholic Church accepted the death penalty as a legitimate tool of justice when proportionate to the crime and necessary for public safety and did not explicitly challenge the morality of the death penalty itself. Then in 1997 Pope John Paul II added the...
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    The Bible Fact of Different Gospels

    If such were the correct path, there would be no need at all for Paul's ministry to exist. I Corinthians 4:14 I do not write these things to shame you, but as my beloved children I warn you. 15 For though you might have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet you do not have many fathers; for...
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    The Bible Fact of Different Gospels

    There certainly has been different laws. Isn't that sort of intuitively obvious? God commanded that the murderer Cain not be executed. Now He commands that all murderers should be executed - your Pope's unrighteous pleading to the contrary not withstanding. Before Abraham there was no...
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    The Bible Fact of Different Gospels

    Excellent post! Of course the modern conception of bible "study" goes well beyond something as obvious as there being more than one gospel. It is literally the difference between objective and subjective bible study, if the later can even be rightly referred to as "study" in the first place...
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    A missing Link to Genesis 1:6 God said, “I command a dome to separate the water above it from the water below it.”

    I've not said it was. It was no more instantaneous than is the energy released when one fires a cannon. It's fast but not instantaneous. The energy is released and imparted to the projectile, accelerating it for as long as the pressure behind the projectile is higher than the pressure in front...
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    Different Stuff

    I think McDonald's rocks!
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