Molinism as an alternative to Open Theism

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Tim Stratton (of Free Thinking Ministries) gives some of the same reasons for rejecting Open Theism that others offer, like Jesus' detailed prophecy of Peter's denial, but he offers Molinism as the alternative.

From what I understand him saying, Molinism posits that God has "middle knowledge" that allows Him to know every possible outcome for every possible action by every possible person, and that God chose the world in which the outcomes achieve the best possible end for everybody, including those who reject His salvation, where the best possible end might be eternal conscious torment.

I have a hard time seeing any difference between Molinism and Calvinism, at least based on my understanding, since God is choosing the world where all of the choices are known and the outcomes are assured (allowing God to know the future "free" choices of man). Can anyone here correct my understanding of Molinism or suggest why it would be superior to Open Theism?
 

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Tim Stratton (of Free Thinking Ministries) gives some of the same reasons for rejecting Open Theism that others offer, like Jesus' detailed prophecy of Peter's denial, but he offers Molinism as the alternative.

From what I understand him saying, Molinism posits that God has "middle knowledge" that allows Him to know every possible outcome for every possible action by every possible person, and that God chose the world in which the outcomes achieve the best possible end for everybody, including those who reject His salvation, where the best possible end might be eternal conscious torment.

I have a hard time seeing any difference between Molinism and Calvinism, at least based on my understanding, since God is choosing the world where all of the choices are known and the outcomes are assured (allowing God to know the future "free" choices of man). Can anyone here correct my understanding of Molinism or suggest why it would be superior to Open Theism?

Idol Killer is an Open Theist who holds to Dynamic Omniscience, which is slightly different than what I believe, but I agree with a lot of what he says often.


IK had Tim Stratton on his channel about two years ago.
 

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Idol Killer is an Open Theist who holds to Dynamic Omniscience, which is slightly different than what I believe, but I agree with a lot of what he says often.


IK had Tim Stratton on his channel about two years ago.
His deity of deception argument is a good one, but don't you think God picking which of all viable worlds amounts to the same thing, because He's picking the world in which everybody has something wrong with their theology?
 
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