Arthur Brain
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Wow, impressive, irrefutable argumentation going on there then, well done, you can post a childish graphic! Moving on...
The Death Penalty should be applied equally to all ages
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Wow, impressive, irrefutable argumentation going on there then, well done, you can post a childish graphic! Moving on...
VladtheDestroyer
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Can you speak in coherent sentences please?
Arthur Brain
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I did, although I admit the syntax wasn't the best.
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VladtheDestroyer
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Well, is it racist for you to to criticise me for my poor english skills, when your language skills are also poor? Do you live in an english speaking country? Do you care about racism?
Arthur Brain
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They aren't poor, else I wouldn't have acquired advanced qualifications in the past where a decent grasp of my native tongue was kinda essential for em'. I ain't writing dissertations on here so I'm not too fussed where it comes to formatting etc as long as they make sense. Why you've brought racism into this is anyone's guess. I could care less what race, colour or creed you are. As I thought I'd told you already, I live in the UK, England as it happens.
VladtheDestroyer
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I see..
Arthur Brain
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One can only hope...
VladtheDestroyer
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So here's a video of DJ Akademiks where he's talking about a recent murder trail. I don't agree with everything he says in this entire video but he affirms the same point I made earlier:
"At 16 to 17, they could do wrong and if an adult retaliates, they're going to say they're a kid. and the law treats them as a kid. Also, they pretty much get one get out of jail free pass.Because even if they do murder, in most places, if they're not charged as an adult, they would essentially get what's called um juvenile life. Which means they don't go to jail. They just go to some institution for juveniles who have
done wrong and they the max they could stay there is for like till they're 25....So what happens in most urban areas..happens even in New Jersey. You have grown men, they recruit teenagers to rob cars, steal cars, or to do crime. You know why? That it's a slap on the wrist for teenagers."
"At 16 to 17, they could do wrong and if an adult retaliates, they're going to say they're a kid. and the law treats them as a kid. Also, they pretty much get one get out of jail free pass.Because even if they do murder, in most places, if they're not charged as an adult, they would essentially get what's called um juvenile life. Which means they don't go to jail. They just go to some institution for juveniles who have
done wrong and they the max they could stay there is for like till they're 25....So what happens in most urban areas..happens even in New Jersey. You have grown men, they recruit teenagers to rob cars, steal cars, or to do crime. You know why? That it's a slap on the wrist for teenagers."
Arthur Brain
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What does this have to do with applying the death penalty to people of all ages? There's a salient point here but in relation to another subject. For example, a number of years ago one of my best friends was involved in an altercation. He was 19 at the time and his attacker was 17 so he defended himself and pretty much knocked the guy out. The law can be at ass at times, no denying it and his permanent criminal record shows him to be guilty of striking a minor as an adult, So yeah, that's ridiculous. What's the solution? It sure ain't executing kids.
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VladtheDestroyer
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You are right. That is ridiculous. Good on you.
Some years ago, back in Florida, a mother and and father were taking their 2 year old infant for an evening walk next to a brook outside their hotel. An alligator lunged from the water, snatched the 2 year old baby into his jaws and chomped the baby to death in front of his parents. And that baby died. God could have stopped that from happening but He didn't.
God let an alligator eat a little baby, right in front of his parents and He didn't do anything to stop it. And surly the mother and father are still suffering today. Of course the baby didn't do anything wrong. But that baby was crying and bleeding when he died. While the alligator was eating him. And God didn't stop it.
Keeping this in mind, would you still agree that God is just? Why?
Arthur Brain
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On the former, yes it was and it's ridiculous that he has any criminal record at all over that incident.
On the latter, please point out the relevance in relation and context to this thread, Otherwise, I'm really not sure what you're asking for. Sounds like a very tragic occurrence in itself so what's your point?
VladtheDestroyer
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Do you think God is Just?
Arthur Brain
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Yes, hence my opposition to this thread premise. I don't pretend to know or even come close to understanding it all at present but if God is love as outlined in the Bible, then I have hope that surpasses any man made fundamentalism by a long shot. Will you answer my question now?
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VladtheDestroyer
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So you trust God enough to know that He is Just, even though He let an alligator eat a little baby.
Are you sure about that? Because it seems to me that if you really believed that God is Just, then you wouldn't be so concerned with exploring these false nuances you are trying to use to circumvent His law.
VladtheDestroyer
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Three men guilty of 'callous' Brighton beach rape
The men, who are all asylum seekers, had denied targeting the woman in the early hours of October 4.
www.bbc.com
Arthur Brain
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You're the one asserting that tragic occurrences equate to God 'letting them happen' without intervention. Are you sure you want to go with that? Do you think God should have intervened? That every time a child is born with defects and life threatening diseases that He could step in and chooses not to? Ya see, I don't pretend to understand everything and am baffled by a lot of stuff that is allowed to happen - atrocities committed in the name of religion, wars over territory, kids bombed in schools etc - but all of that is no excuse for deliberately enacting or supporting laws that perpetuate injustice and horror.
A tragic event is one thing. What is proposed here is quite another.
Arthur Brain
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Three men guilty of 'callous' Brighton beach rape
The men, who are all asylum seekers, had denied targeting the woman in the early hours of October 4.
I could link to any given event from the UK to America, Canada, France etc. Just what point are you trying to make with this, especially in regards to this actual thread?!
Arthur Brain
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Oh, and "false nuances"?! Yeah, you're really gonna have to spell out just exactly what ya mean with that, else it's just a wordy soundbite in lieu of support...