Did Paul believe God made one human who is father of all mankind?

[iansmithedi]

And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings,

Acts 17:26 NKJV



"made" (4160) could be rendered as to prepare or appoint.
Therefore possible God could have chosen (separated out) and appointed (prepared) an early form of man, and individual humanoid, to become the first of homo sapiens, Adam.


What do you think?



"Made" = poieo = to make / to do (4160)
to make
1. with the names of things made, to produce, construct, form, fashion, etc.
2. to be the authors of, the cause
3. to make ready, to prepare
4. to produce, bear, shoot forth
5. to acquire, to provide a thing for one's self
6. to make a thing out of something
7. to (make i.e.) render one anything
1. to (make i.e.) constitute or appoint one anything, to appoint or ordain one that
2. to (make i.e.) declare one anything
8. to put one forth, to lead him out
9. to make one do something
1. cause one to
10. to be the authors of a thing (to cause, bring about)

 

[Derf]

And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings,

Acts 17:26 NKJV



"made" (4160) could be rendered as to prepare or appoint.
Therefore possible God could have chosen (separated out) and appointed (prepared) an early form of man, and individual humanoid, to become the first of homo sapiens, Adam.


What do you think?



"Made" = poieo = to make / to do (4160)
to make
1. with the names of things made, to produce, construct, form, fashion, etc.
2. to be the authors of, the cause
3. to make ready, to prepare
4. to produce, bear, shoot forth
5. to acquire, to provide a thing for one's self
6. to make a thing out of something
7. to (make i.e.) render one anything
1. to (make i.e.) constitute or appoint one anything, to appoint or ordain one that
2. to (make i.e.) declare one anything
8. to put one forth, to lead him out
9. to make one do something
1. cause one to
10. to be the authors of a thing (to cause, bring about)

Paul’s words fit the Genesis narrative. Jesus supported it. Why go looking for a different interpretation, except that you don’t believe the three witnesses.

 

[iansmithedi]

Paul’s words fit the Genesis narrative. Jesus supported it. Why go looking for a different interpretation, except that you don’t believe the three witnesses.

Could you help a bit more and explain that please?

 

[Derf]

Could you help a bit more and explain that please?

Explain what?

 

[Derf]

Could you help a bit more and explain that please?

Explain what?

I’m not trying to be evasive, but I need to know what part you don’t understand about what I said.

 

[way 2 go]

Did Paul believe God made one human who is father of all mankind?​

yes

 

[Gary K]

yes

I would differ with you slightly. God made one set of parents, not just one human.

 

[way 2 go]

I would differ with you slightly. God made one set of parents, not just one human.

God made just one human then he made another from the first one

Gen 2:15 The LORD God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to work it and keep it.
...
Gen 2:18 Then the LORD God said, “It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him.”

 

[Derf]

Did we lose @iansmithedi ?

 

[Gary K]

God made just one human then he made another from the first one

Gen 2:15 The LORD God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to work it and keep it.
...
Gen 2:18 Then the LORD God said, “It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him.”

The fact that God created Eve from Adam's rib in no way takes away from the fact that God created her. God used soil to create Adam. He's used part of Adam to create Eve showing the relationship between them.

 

[Right Divider]

I would differ with you slightly. God made one set of parents, not just one human.

Did Paul believe God made one human who is father of all mankind?​

Only one of the two humans was the father; the other was the mother.

 

[Omniskeptical]

1Ti 2:13
For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

 

[Derf]

The fact that God created Eve from Adam's rib in no way takes away from the fact that God created her. God used soil to create Adam. He's used part of Adam to create Eve showing the relationship between them.

He might also have used soil along with the rib. The rib was the important part, but would have to be expanded somehow.

 

[Gary K]

He might also have used soil along with the rib. The rib was the important part, but would have to be expanded somehow.

So God, who spoke the flora and fauna of this world into existence, would have to use more than just Adam's rib to create Eve. Really? You personally know all of our infinite God's personal limitations, as if an infinite God has limitations? I didn't know any humans have an infinite understanding of God. I've always understood that we are finite.

 

[Derf]

So God, who spoke the flora and fauna of this world into existence, would have to use more than just Adam's rib to create Eve. Really? You personally know all of our infinite God's personal limitations, as if an infinite God has limitations? I didn't know any humans have an infinite understanding of God. I've always understood that we are finite.

So you also agree that God MIGHT have used soil along with Adam’s rib, since you don’t know how He did it? And since the God who spoke the flora and fauna into existence actually told us He used soil for Adam, and used water or earth to bring forth the animals, He MIGHT have done more than He told us? He MIGHT have actually designed the animals and thought carefully about what materials He used, and maybe even made the earth of materials that would be conducive to providing the raw materials for Adam and animals.
Why do we turn our brains off about how God does things, just because He doesn’t give us all the details?

 

[Gary K]

So you also agree that God MIGHT have used soil along with Adam’s rib, since you don’t know how He did it? And since the God who spoke the flora and fauna into existence actually told us He used soil for Adam, and used water or earth to bring forth the animals, He MIGHT have done more than He told us? He MIGHT have actually designed the animals and thought carefully about what materials He used, and maybe even made the earth of materials that would be conducive to providing the raw materials for Adam and animals.
Why do we turn our brains off about how God does things, just because He doesn’t give us all the details?

Nothing of the sort.

Genesis 2:21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
22 And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

Scripture plainly says that God took one of Adam's ribs and closed up the wound. And that the rib God had taken from Adam is that of which he made Eve. The scripture is plain and consice. I take God at His word. You add your speculation to God's word. That's the difference between our positions.

You can speculate all you want. But your speculation is not scripture.

 

[Bradley D]

Where did Cain's wife come from?

"And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch" (Gen. 4:17).

 

[Derf]

Nothing of the sort.



Scripture plainly says that God took one of Adam's ribs and closed up the wound. And that the rib God had taken from Adam is that of which he made Eve. The scripture is plain and consice. I take God at His word. You add your speculation to God's word. That's the difference between our positions.

You can speculate all you want. But your speculation is not scripture.

What about babies? What are they made of?

 

[Right Divider]

What about babies? What are they made of?

Silly putty?

 

[Derf]

Silly putty?

I guess so. You start with a small batch of silly putty and then stretch it out to a large baby of silly putty, and then that large baby stretches into a little boy of silly putty, and on into a man of silly putty, all with the same initial blob of silly putty.