The coronavirus scam

[expos4ever]

confession through projection

masks haven't worked for preventing chicom virus


Covid-19 Was Consuming India, Until Nearly Everyone Started Wearing Masks

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Let's go slowly - do you, or do not understand that mask-wearing is but one of many factors that determines cases?

Actually, it is actually almost impossible that you do not understand this.

So why are you intentionally misrepresenting the truth by such a graph?

 

[expos4ever]

This is hilarious. More projection. What the left is guilty of doing they always project upon their opponents. The history of this behavior is long and sordid.

How about one, just one example, of any of us on the "left" in this or any other thread, doing this (shifting the burden of proof).

Good luck with your search.

 

[expos4ever]

Why don't we just relax and accept the new changes which developed recently and overturned earlier science? Biden himself has now admitted we do not have to wear masks. Why? Because masks are no longer essential to keep large numbers of people from getting covid.

Shifting the goalposts.

When challenged on your claim that masks don't work, do you provide evidence for your claim?

Nay - you sail off on a tangent about how we no longer need masks. Different question.

 

[expos4ever]

Why don't we just relax and accept the new changes which developed recently and overturned earlier science?

What science was overturned?

 

[expos4ever]

Those who regularly reject the numerous media claims involving Fauci's funding of the Wuhan lab during the time it was developing the coronavirus have the burden to prove those news accounts wrong if they think they are not accurate.

Misleading (again). I would be stunned if you have credible evidence that a lab in Wuhan developed the coronavirus.

But let's say you are right - that a lab in Wuhan did indeed develop the coronavirus.

It should not have to be said that Fauci's funding of such a lab in Wuhan only puts him in an "at fault" or responsible position if he knew, or reasonably should have known, what the lab was up to.

And for that, you guys bear the burden of proof.

 

[expos4ever]

The "vaccine" makes no sense at all for the other 90% of the population. The rest of us should just eat a little better, lose a bit of weight, take some vitamin D, and move on with their lives.

I find such statement puzzling - surely you must know that while 90% of the population may be at very low risk for covid complications, that 90% can transmit it to the 10% who are at risk.

 

[expos4ever]

The deaths attributed to covid appear inflated, and news of adverse reactions to the "vaccine" seem to be suppressed. The governing authorities are promoting an atmosphere of fear and divisiveness.

What actual evidence do you have for either of these assertions?

 

[expos4ever]

Yep

Ummm, any actual, you know, evidence?

 

[expos4ever]

Fauci helped invent the covid virus by funding those at Wuhan as they developed the genetically altered novel virus from bats.

Any, you know, evidence?

 

[expos4ever]

The reporting has been proven dishonest, driven by evil democrat ideals and agendas.

In the absence of evidence, a compelling narrative that appeals to primal neurons tucked under red ball caps will do the trick!

 

[expos4ever]

Regarding "conspiracy theories", anyone who believes the Bible (or pays any attention to history) has to realize that conspiracies are commonplace in our fallen world.

Conspiracies that are factual are most assuredly common, but the bizarre imaginings we hear from the American right have no basis in reality: the election was most certainly not stolen; Joe Biden is not a pedophile; there is no child sex ring of high profile Democrats, etc.

 

[expos4ever]

more confession through projection

Guess what: in 2010, 2% of all hospital admissions in the US resulted in death. Does that mean that if I sashay into the hospital tomorrow just for fun, I have a 2% of dying in that hospital?

Give your head a shake, man! Correlation is not causation!

You can post all the graphs you wish showing that covid has gone up after people started wearing masks. This will not change the fact - discernible by a 10-year old - that such a correlation does not establish that masks do not work.

Man, what passes for "thought" in this forum is amusing.

 

[expos4ever]

living under a rock are you ?

Struck on the head by one, are you?

 

[expos4ever]

Note to high school students: You can question my conclusions but should not declare them wrong unless you can show evidence that the conclusions are wrong. Claiming someone is wrong is not the same thing as proving someone wrong.

Note to high school students: The burden of proof is on the claimant.

Again, how can you possibly believe that the proper way to conduct a debate is for you to make an unsupported assertion and then insist that we have to prove it is wrong.

Let me try that game.

There is a unicorn in my backyard

Now allow me to use your very own words:

You can question my conclusions but should not declare them wrong unless you can show evidence that the conclusions are wrong. Claiming someone is wrong is not the same thing as proving someone wrong

 

[way 2 go]

Just 2% of SARS-CoV-2−positive individuals carry 90% of the virus circulating in communities​

Just 2% of SARS-CoV-2−positive individuals carry 90% of the virus circulating in communities

We analyzed data from saliva-based COVID-19 screening deployed on the University of Colorado Boulder campus. Our dataset is unique in that all SARS-CoV-2−positive individuals reported no symptoms at the time of saliva collection, and therefore were infected but asymptomatic or presymptomatic. We...

www.pnas.org

Significance​

We analyzed data from saliva-based COVID-19 screening deployed on the University of Colorado Boulder campus. Our dataset is unique in that all SARS-CoV-2−positive individuals reported no symptoms at the time of saliva collection, and therefore were infected but asymptomatic or presymptomatic. We found that 1) the distribution of viral loads observed in our asymptomatic college population was indistinguishable from what has been reported in hospitalized populations; 2) regardless of symptomatic status, approximately 50% of individuals who test positive for SARS-CoV-2 seem to be in noninfectious phases of the infection; and 3) just 2% of infected individuals carry 90% of the virions circulating within communities, serving as viral “supercarriers” and likely also superspreaders.

 

[way 2 go]

uh oh , Taiwan is finding out masks don't work

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1395454314487812097

 

[JudgeRightly]

I find such statement puzzling - surely you must know that while 90% of the population may be at very low risk for covid complications, that 90% can transmit it to the 10% who are at risk.

Did you also know that 90% of the population, which is at very low risk, while they may spread the virus to one at higher risk, cannot infect them if they are immune, either through vaccine or prior infection?

And did you know that 90% of the population can protect the remaining 10% simply by self-quarantining when they are sick or show symptoms, allowing the rest of the population to go about their daily lives as usual?

 

[expos4ever]

This thread has been a

I have seen no evidence which shows cloth masks stop the majority of covid particles, much less which say they stop more than 50% of covid particles in breathing. I have seen lots of reports which say something like "everyone says the same thing, masks are effective and even essential in stopping the spread of covid."

From the CDC:

Multi-layer cloth masks block release of exhaled respiratory particles into the environment, along with the microorganisms these particles carry. Cloth masks not only effectively block most large droplets (i.e., 20-30 microns and larger) but they can also block the exhalation of fine droplets and particles (also often referred to as aerosols) smaller than 10 microns ; which increase in number with the volume of speech and specific types of phonation.13 Multi-layer cloth masks can both block up to 50-70% of these fine droplets and particles and limit the forward spread of those that are not captured.5,6,15,16 Upwards of 80% blockage has been achieved in human experiments that have measured blocking of all respiratory droplets,4 with cloth masks in some studies performing on par with surgical masks as barriers for source control

Look, we all know the strategy you guys are using. And, it works and sadly people will die as a result of the disinformation you are engaged in.

Here is what is really going on here: you take advantage of the fact that the science here is indeed complex - it is not a simple matter to establish the value of masks not least as one needs to control for a myriad of other confounding variables. And then there are tiny droplets, medium size droplets, and large droplets. You guys take advantage of this complexity by presenting a barrage of misleading bits of information, from graphs that effectively screen out relevant variables, to videos of people blowing smoke through a mask in their basements. It is no wonder that people fall for this stuff.

The real bottom line is this: the consensus of qualified experts is very strong that covid is real, vaccines are worth taking, and that masks work.

And so you are forced to adopt these strategies

1. Befuddle readers with a barrage of information: the mere fact that you post so much stuff will give naive readers the impression you have a case.
2. You screen out relevant facts.
3. You appeal to primal fears with a healthy dose of demonizing rhetoric, well-seasoned a heaping tablespoon of conspiracy theory.

 

[expos4ever]

Leftist supporter of the American democrat socialist fascist shutdown of the economy: "Fauci may have funded the Wuhan lab during their development of the covid virus, but you cannot prove he knew anything about what they were doing there."

What in the world is your point? You are making the claim that Dr. Fauci somehow bears some responsibility for Covid. Well, where is the evidence?

A grade 8 student will know that even if Dr. Fauci funded this lab, and even if that lab deliberately created the virus, Dr. Fauci only bears responsibility for this to the extent that he knew, or should have known, that this would happen.

And you have been repeatedly reminded of this. So where is your case?

If your style of reasoning is adopted, we could blame Einstein for the atom bomb simply because he discovered that E = mc squared.

 

[marke]

Consider a 60 year old named Fred born with heart disease that would kill him at 70 if he does not otherwise get sick with something.

Covid Situation: Fred gets Covid and dies in 2 weeks. We can reasonably say that Covid killed Fred even though his heart disease played a role. Fred would have lived till 70 before his heart disease killed him. So it is reasonable to say that Covid killed Fred.

Smoking Situation: Fred is a smoker, there is no pandemic and Fred dies at 60, due to the interaction of smoking with heart disease, instead of 70, when he would have died had he not smoked.

So, yes, to be consistent, we would need to attribute smoking Fred's death to smoking.

So what? How does that help you escape the accusation that you are misleading people by suggesting the people die with covid, and not from it.

The simple fact that torpedoes your argument is that those people would have lived longer in the absence of covid.

Just because people would live longer if they did not smoke, or drink, or commit immoral sex, or abuse drugs, is no reason to completely destroy the entire economy in stupid efforts to stamp out all remaining risks no matter how slight in the big picture. 12,000 Americans are dying each year from diseases that have been worsened by covid at current rates.

Americans have been bamboozled by leftist democrats into turning their freedom over the jack-booted fascist thugs who are turning the country into a communist dictatorship under the guise of health and safety. There is no continuing out-of-control covid pandemic. About 1,000 Americans a month die from covid and those numbers are falling. Compare that to the 40,000 Americans who die every month from smoking. Where is the panic over those much larger numbers? There is no panic because the leftists are not being honest about panicking over massive numbers of deaths which could be prevented if appropriate measures were taken.

Fast Facts

See the fast facts regarding smoking and tobacco use.

www.cdc.gov

Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day.1