ONLY ONE GOSPEL ?

beloved57

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Holding to the notion that only one gospel was preached throughout scripture has implications.

Matthew 28:16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.

28:17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.

28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

If, as some say, there is only one gospel preached by Jesus, the twelve, and Paul, then not only the gospel taught the disciples is to be believed, but we have to observe, and do, all Jesus commanded them according to Matthew 28:20.

Jesus taught them the gospel of the kingdom (Matthew 4:23), saying in Mark 1:14-15 the time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. That time was the promised kingdom on earth, in which, Christ and the remnant of Israel would reign on earth. Since this gospel was taught by Christ, and we are commanded to teach all he taught, we would have to likewise, wrongly preach this gospel.

The fact that Christ commanded all to observe all things would not allow one to say, we rightly divide scripture, and certain teachings were only to be fulfilled by those disciples, and therefore do not apply to us. It is either we correctly rightly divide scripture, or we obey all of it.

It would be correct to rightly divide, as Christ, in verse 16, was only commanding the eleven disciples.​

There's only one Gospel and the body of Christ is Israel that reigns with Christ. The Gospel of the kingdom is the same as the Gospel of Christ!
 

God's Truth

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they were NOT circumcised...thus unclean you can be sure they associated with Cornelius he gave alms dontcha know...LOL

“Keep company with” meant eat with any regular gentile in his home but Cornelius was a devout Yah fearer...”go to one of another nation for means to proselytize”...gentiles came to them...as Cornelius did...

What is wrong with you? You want to be a teacher and you go against what God says all over the place.

It was against the law for Jews to associate with Gentiles.


Acts 10:28, He said to them: "You are well aware that it is against our law for a Jew to associate with or visit a Gentile. But God has shown me that I should not call anyone impure or unclean.
 

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Where there is NO LAW there is NO SIN...but when they came INTO fellowship they learned of their sin because they learned of the Law...HOW ELSE WOULD ANYONE HEAR OF ONE RESURRECTED IF THE LAW WAS NOT ESTABLISHED? And by Him

A person can't be saved by Jesus until they hear the gospel and believe and obey.

It was by that Law He could be resurrected...DUH

What?

You really need to read Heb 11 again...

Adam was NOT Jewish Yah came to him...

Enoch was NOT Jewish Yah came to him...

Noah was NOT Jewish Yah came to him...

Abram was NOT Jewish Yah came to him...

Isaac was NOT Jewish Yah came to him...

Jacob was NOT Jewish Yah came to him...

Joseph was NOT Jewish Yah came to him...

Moses was NOT Jewish Yah came to him...

James was right that Peter was right...Yah went to the Gentile first to seek out a people for His Name...Acts 15:14

to set them apart a peculiar Holy pure clean people...WANTING to obey MORE and be MORE LIKE HIM...and NOT LESS like you indolent insolent of a reprobate mind...as if His is “NOT FOR ME”....

It is to the Jews first then to the Gentiles.

Paul calls it Jews first then Gentiles, and SO DOES PETER:

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile.

Romans 2:9 There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile;

Acts 3:26 When God raised up His servant, He sent Him first to you to bless you by turning each of you from your wicked ways."

Acts 13:46 Then Paul and Barnabas answered them boldly: "We had to speak the word of God
to you first. Since you reject it and do not consider yourselves worthy of eternal life, we now turn to the Gentiles.

Acts 18:6 But when they opposed and insulted him, he shook out his garments and told them, "Your blood be on your own heads! I am innocent of it. From now on I will go to the Gentiles."
 

clefty

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What is wrong with you? You want to be a teacher and you go against what God says all over the place.

It was against the law for Jews to associate with Gentiles.
a law they made...a new law...not in OT...

Acts 10:28, He said to them: "You are well aware that it is against our law for a Jew to associate with or visit a Gentile. But God has shown me that I should not call anyone impure or unclean.

I already answered that...read what I already wrote...

is why He broke down the middle wall of division dividing Jews and goyim and He abolished in His flesh the enmity Jews had of goyim...and NOT by His death but in His flesh by HOW He lived...even healing the goyim...
 

clefty

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A person can't be saved by Jesus until they hear the gospel and believe and obey.
is exactly WHY James concluded the Acts 15 council expecting the goyim now clean to keep crowding the synagogues to hear Moses EVERY SABBATH in every city Act 15:21



by Law...having fulfilled it perfectly He had no more wages to pay so the Lawgiver was pleased and raised Him up GLORIFIED...”well done my Son” Yah must have said that First Fruits Sunday when Yahushua went up to confirm His success...


It is to the Jews first then to the Gentiles.

Paul calls it Jews first then Gentiles, and SO DOES PETER:

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile.

Romans 2:9 There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile;

Acts 3:26 When God raised up His servant, He sent Him first to you to bless you by turning each of you from your wicked ways."

Acts 13:46 Then Paul and Barnabas answered them boldly: "We had to speak the word of God
to you first. Since you reject it and do not consider yourselves worthy of eternal life, we now turn to the Gentiles.

Acts 18:6 But when they opposed and insulted him, he shook out his garments and told them, "Your blood be on your own heads! I am innocent of it. From now on I will go to the Gentiles."

I am familiar with all those texts that is why the Acts 15:11 is even more shocking...the verse 14 has James merely telling the truth much neglected...GENTILES were solicited first...neat eh?

Even Jews consider this:

The Lord offered the Law to all nations; but all refused to accept it except Israel."[9]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews..._chosen_people

Interesting stuff...
 

God's Truth

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a law they made...a new law...not in OT...

No, it was from God.

I already answered that...read what I already wrote...

is why He broke down the middle wall of division dividing Jews and goyim and He abolished in His flesh the enmity Jews had of goyim...and NOT by His death but in His flesh by HOW He lived...even healing the goyim...

The dividing wall is the purification works of the law.

Not by his death but by his flesh, you say. lol

The rules and regulations of the law were nailed to the cross.
 

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is exactly WHY James concluded the Acts 15 council expecting the goyim now clean to keep crowding the synagogues to hear Moses EVERY SABBATH in every city Act 15:21

What on earth are you talking about?


by Law...having fulfilled it perfectly He had no more wages to pay so the Lawgiver was pleased and raised Him up GLORIFIED...”well done my Son” Yah must have said that First Fruits Sunday when Yahushua went up to confirm His success...

What?

I am familiar with all those texts that is why the Acts 15:11 is even more shocking...the verse 14 has James merely telling the truth much neglected...GENTILES were solicited first...neat eh?

Even Jews consider this:

The Lord offered the Law to all nations; but all refused to accept it except Israel."[9]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews..._chosen_people

Interesting stuff...

You go against God so much. The scriptures plainly say first to the Jews then to the Gentiles.
 

clefty

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No, it was from God.
nope...Strangers and foreigners who believed were amongst them since they Egypt...were even given inheritance of the land...

You think Naomi refused to eat or fellowship with Ruth? LOL

The dividing wall is the purification works of the law.
NOPE...believing gentiles throughout the OT were expected to partake of the festivals...ONLY NOT of the Passover meat...unless the were cut themselves...but all the rest were for them...

Like in the Sabbath commandment...remember made for MAN...not just Jews...but even for strangers within your gates...

did you even notice it is the ONLY commandment that is THAT inclusive...

Not by his death but by his flesh, you say. lol
I do...the way He healed the gentiles...and to ALL when He resurrected in His flesh...

The rules and regulations of the law were nailed to the cross.

WRONG...again...and again...and again...so much FAIL on your end of this...

can't nail stone to wood...nor what is placed into circumcised hearts and inner Jew minds of Christ LIVING AS HE DID in the New Covenant lifestyle...and in accordance to what Acts 15 ruled...no blood, no carcass, no offering clean meat to idols...makes it unclean ya dig?

or do you think a double negative is positive...offering a pig to an idol makes it clean...LOL
 

clefty

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What on earth are you talking about?
Scripture and what is expected of His people...as James said Moses is preached every Sabbath...Acts 15:21 you prolly miss that...




I know I know...new concept for you...the Law is good...a shadow of good things still to come...

the PROMISE and HOPE is ours we become adopted are rightful heirs through LAW...HIS LAW...that is where our rights are written by Him...and the LAW provides for Him to give them to us on condition...

is WHY Paul delighted to serve the LAW...a spiritual thing... it being GOOD...

He even says we are to establish it...our faith does not annul it...but we are to establish it...you know...to serve others and point out their NEED of Him...the LAW GIVER


You go against God so much. The scriptures plainly say first to the Jews then to the Gentiles.

sure...but NOT here...Acts 15:11 and 14...neat eh?

He went to the Gentiles to...you know...set them apart sanctify them make them Holy...

give them His Name...His Law...His Sabbath rest...His people still have a sabbatismos...a keeping of Sabbath...
 

God's Truth

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It was from God.

Genesis 17:14 Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant."

Exodus 12:48 "A foreigner residing among you who wants to celebrate the LORD's Passover must have all the males in his household circumcised; then he may take part like one born in the land. No uncircumcised male may eat it.

Joshua 23:7 Do not associate with these nations that remain among you;


Acts 10:28 He said to them: "You are well aware that it is against our law for a Jew to associate with or visit a Gentile. But God has shown me that I should not call anyone impure or unclean.


You should stop trying to teach about God, because you don't know the scriptures or God.
 

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WRONG...again...and again...and again...so much FAIL on your end of this...

can't nail stone to wood...nor what is placed into circumcised hearts and inner Jew minds of Christ LIVING AS HE DID in the New Covenant lifestyle...and in accordance to what Acts 15 ruled...no blood, no carcass, no offering clean meat to idols...makes it unclean ya dig?

or do you think a double negative is positive...offering a pig to an idol makes it clean...LOL

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Colossians 2:14 having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross.

Ephesians 2:15 by abolishing in His flesh the law of commandments and decrees. He did this to create in Himself one new man out of the two, thus making peace
 

clefty

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It was from God.

Genesis 17:14 Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant."
this was to Abraham...

did he NOT associate with any other people?

or do business with them...LIE to them about his wife...

or REFUSE visitors?

No he fed visitors he received a calf in its mother's milk...

interesting visitors those were...NOT sure they were circumcised BTW...

oh and the food was NOT KOSHER.. LOL

Exodus 12:48 "A foreigner residing among you who wants to celebrate the LORD's Passover must have all the males in his household circumcised; then he may take part like one born in the land. No uncircumcised male may eat it.
yes I ALREADY noted that if you would actually read my posts...misspellings and all...

Did you happen to EVER read Exodus 12:19 Seven days shall there be no leaven found in your houses: for whosoever eateth that which is leavened, even that soul shall be cut off from the congregation of Israel, whether he be a stranger, or born in the land.

These "strangers within they gates" also celebrated OTHER festivals besides the Sabbath...you know cuz they were "within thy gates"...

And look what ELSE is "IT WAS FROM GOD"

Ezekiel 47:22 You
shall allot it as an inheritance for yourselves and for the foreigners who dwell among you and who have children. You are to treat them as native-born Israelites; along with you, they shall be allotted an inheritance among the tribes of Israel. 23In whatevertribethe foreignerdwells, you are to assign his inheritance there, declares the Lord GOD.’

FONT=Times New Roman]Joshua 23:7[/FONT] Do not associate with these nations that remain among you;



Joshua 23:6 Be strong, then, so that you can keep and obey all that is written in the Book of the Law of Moses, not turning aside from it to the right or to the left. 7So you are not to associate with these nations remaining among you. Do not call on the names of their gods or swear by them, and you must not serve them or bow down to them. 8Instead, you shall hold fast to the LORD your God, as you have done to this day

So you think Cornelius was calling on the names of his former gods...or swore by them...or bowed down to them? LOL
Acts 10: 1At Caesarea there was a man named Cornelius, a centurion of what was known as the Italian Cohort,
2 a devout man who feared God with all his household, gave alms generously to the people, and prayed continually to God

22And they said, “Cornelius, a centurion, an upright and
God-fearing man, who is well spoken of by the whole Jewish nation,

31and said, ‘Cornelius, your prayer has been heard and your alms have been remembered before God.
34So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality,
35 Butin every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him.





Acts 10:28 He said to them: "You are well aware that it is against our law for a Jew to associate with or visit a Gentile. But God has shown me that I should not call anyone impure or unclean.
yup their law...man's traditions...because they had enmity against the dirty goyim...built a middle wall of division to separate themselves from them...


You should stop trying to teach about God, because you don't know the scriptures or God.

and y
ou would have FOUR woman in Yahushua's genealogy forbidden...LOL
 

clefty

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Colossians 2:14 having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross.
it even says in the text what was cancelled...THE LEGAL INDEBTEDNESS...

He paid for food bill in the restaurant you ate...He did NOT get rid of the menu its prices...LOL

You really think this is the first time I have dealt with reprobates like you...and regarding this text?

But you insist what DAVID LOVED and what PAUL writes Romans 7:22 - For I delight in the Law of Yahweh stood against us and condemns us...LOL


FONT=Calibri]Ephesians 2:15 by abolishing in His flesh the law of commandments and decrees. He did this to create in Himself one new man out of the two, thus making peace [/FONT]

why would ceremonial laws that gentiles were welcomed to celebrate...already JOINING them as ONE BODY in this ekklessia when it was in the OT wilderness...suddenly NOW need abolishing to make one new man? LOL

Sabbath was SPECIFICALLY given to the strangers within their gates...and HERE you think it was abolished to make one new man of the two Jew and Greek...peace...REST...LOL

maybe there were NEW LAWS added...you know...to IMPROVE His?...which were found in ordinances and decrees...like this guy






Read all about it here:

https://www.mikemasonbooks.com/the-f...tory-in-stone/
 

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this was to Abraham...

did he NOT associate with any other people?

or do business with them...LIE to them about his wife...

or REFUSE visitors?

No he fed visitors he received a calf in its mother's milk...

interesting visitors those were...NOT sure they were circumcised BTW...

oh and the food was NOT KOSHER.. LOL

yes I ALREADY noted that if you would actually read my posts...misspellings and all...

Did you happen to EVER read Exodus 12:19 Seven days shall there be no leaven found in your houses: for whosoever eateth that which is leavened, even that soul shall be cut off from the congregation of Israel, whether he be a stranger, or born in the land.

These "strangers within they gates" also celebrated OTHER festivals besides the Sabbath...you know cuz they were "within thy gates"...

And look what ELSE is "IT WAS FROM GOD"

Ezekiel 47:22 You
shall allot it as an inheritance for yourselves and for the foreigners who dwell among you and who have children. You are to treat them as native-born Israelites; along with you, they shall be allotted an inheritance among the tribes of Israel. 23In whatevertribethe foreignerdwells, you are to assign his inheritance there, declares the Lord GOD.’





Joshua 23:6 Be strong, then, so that you can keep and obey all that is written in the Book of the Law of Moses, not turning aside from it to the right or to the left. 7So you are not to associate with these nations remaining among you. Do not call on the names of their gods or swear by them, and you must not serve them or bow down to them. 8Instead, you shall hold fast to the LORD your God, as you have done to this day

So you think Cornelius was calling on the names of his former gods...or swore by them...or bowed down to them? LOL
Acts 10: 1At Caesarea there was a man named Cornelius, a centurion of what was known as the Italian Cohort,
2 a devout man who feared God with all his household, gave alms generously to the people, and prayed continually to God

22And they said, “Cornelius, a centurion, an upright and
God-fearing man, who is well spoken of by the whole Jewish nation,

31and said, ‘Cornelius, your prayer has been heard and your alms have been remembered before God.
34So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality,
35 Butin every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him.






yup their law...man's traditions...because they had enmity against the dirty goyim...built a middle wall of division to separate themselves from them...




and y
ou would have FOUR woman in Yahushua's genealogy forbidden...LOL

That is a lot of words from you to try to get out of the fact that you said the Pharisees made up the rule about not associating with the unclean Gentiles.

God made that command.

If there were any Gentiles or Greeks or Egyptians, or WHOEVER that the Jews could associate with, it is because they have CONVERTED to the way of the Jews and obeyed their laws.
 

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it even says in the text what was cancelled...THE LEGAL INDEBTEDNESS...

He paid for food bill in the restaurant you ate...He did NOT get rid of the menu its prices...LOL

You really think this is the first time I have dealt with reprobates like you...and regarding this text?



why would ceremonial laws that gentiles were welcomed to celebrate...already JOINING them as ONE BODY in this ekklessia when it was in the OT wilderness...suddenly NOW need abolishing to make one new man? LOL

Sabbath was SPECIFICALLY given to the strangers within their gates...and HERE you think it was abolished to make one new man of the two Jew and Greek...peace...REST...LOL

maybe there were NEW LAWS added...you know...to IMPROVE His?...which were found in ordinances and decrees...like this guy

The Gentiles that did not do the purification works of the law were without God and without hope in the world.
 

clefty

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That is a lot of words from you to try to get out of the fact that you said the Pharisees made up the rule about not associating with the unclean Gentiles.
typical avoidance and rejection and "NOT FOR ME" of the reprobate mind...

God made that command.
which ones the ones LETTING THEM FELLOWSHIP AND WORSHIP?

Numbers 15:14And if a stranger dwells with you, or whoever is among you throughout your generations, and would present an offering made by fire, a sweet aroma to the Lord, just as you do, so shall he do.15 One ordinance shall be for you of the assembly and for the stranger who dwells with you, an ordinance forever throughout your generations; as you are, so shall the stranger be before the Lord.16 One law and one custom shall be for you and for the stranger who dwells with you.

If there were any Gentiles or Greeks or Egyptians, or WHOEVER that the Jews could associate with, it is because they have CONVERTED to the way of the Jews and obeyed their laws.
NICE SAVE...LOL

and duh...is why Cornelius kept the LAW you know devout Yah fearing not to his former gods...He was already of NO DISTINCTION is WHY he and his HOUSE was GRACED with the Spirit...had faith first...and obeyed...

except for circumcision which was ONLY required for Passover...
 

clefty

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The Gentiles that did not do the purification works of the law were without God and without hope in the world.

happily they DID DO THEM and WANTED TO...unlike you and your bitter "NOT FOR ME"...

and already in the OT when THIS ONE EKKLESIA was in the wilderness and ALREADY FULL OF THOSE NOT OF JACOB...He the Head of this ONE BODY...as Paul so nicely wrote to even MORE GENTILES CROWDING CORINTHIAN SYNAGOGUES ON THE SABBATH

I Cor 10:2They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. 3They all ate the same spiritual food 4and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.

BUT AS TODAY...some began to make up NEW laws and seek to worship Him their own way...claiming His were "NOT FOR ME"

and fell into idolatry...another gospel another Christ


maybe one like yours without gentile ancestors? LOL
 

clefty

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God made that command.
.

NOT THIS ONE...so what do you think? I showed Lon this picture and he ignored it too...

he too thought the Sabbath Law was abolished and not this one

So what do you think of this ordinance? He abolished to MAKE ONE BODY ONE LAW citizen of Isreal

hope you don't ignore it like he did...LOL


He said he could read Greek we know you can not

but it’s about “Stop gentile beyond this point you will be killed” or something

But it’s all Greek to me LOL
 

God's Truth

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typical avoidance and rejection and "NOT FOR ME" of the reprobate mind...

which ones the ones LETTING THEM FELLOWSHIP AND WORSHIP?

Numbers 15:14And if a stranger dwells with you, or whoever is among you throughout your generations, and would present an offering made by fire, a sweet aroma to the Lord, just as you do, so shall he do.15 One ordinance shall be for you of the assembly and for the stranger who dwells with you, an ordinance forever throughout your generations; as you are, so shall the stranger be before the Lord.16 One law and one custom shall be for you and for the stranger who dwells with you.

NICE SAVE...LOL

and duh...is why Cornelius kept the LAW you know devout Yah fearing not to his former gods...He was already of NO DISTINCTION is WHY he and his HOUSE was GRACED with the Spirit...had faith first...and obeyed...

except for circumcision which was ONLY required for Passover...

What is wrong with you? If Cornelius kept the whole law then Peter wouldn't have said it wasn't lawful for him to go into his house.
 

God's Truth

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NOT THIS ONE...so what do you think? I showed Lon this picture and he ignored it too...

he too thought the Sabbath Law was abolished and not this one

So what do you think of this ordinance? He abolished to MAKE ONE BODY ONE LAW citizen of Isreal

hope you don't ignore it like he did...LOL


He said he could read Greek we know you can not

but it’s about “Stop gentile beyond this point you will be killed” or something

But it’s all Greek to me LOL

I go by the Bible.

Why are you trying to disprove what the Bible says?
 
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