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Why Evolution is real science - let's settle this "debate"!

Stuu

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They are all completely unreliable. So why do you want the least unreliable? They are based on a false premise and therefore false assumptions.
But which dating method do you rank as the worst, and which of the features of it strike you are particularly lamentable?

Show an error in the history of any part of it. You're full of talk... false talk.
Humans don't live for many hundreds of years.

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Why is a global flood under consideration at all? What prompted that?
Evidence.

To be part of a sensible discussion.

For one who doesn't seem to know what scientific consensus means, that would be hypocritical.
A consensus is an idea agreed on by the vast majority. Science is an idea that is falsifiable and testable. A "scientific concensus" is a non sequitur.

How do you come to a global flood date of about 4300 years ago?
The evidence.
 

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Why is a global flood under consideration at all? What prompted that?


Why?


For one who doesn't seem to know what scientific consensus means, that would be hypocritical.


How do you come to a global flood date of about 4300 years ago?

Stuart

Where are you getting 4300 years ago?

Certainly not from the HPT.
 

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Sure, there is that too.

But that is all that exists. The rest is vivid imagination.

Stuart

The ones with the vivid imagination are the atheist materialists. They actually believe that nothing created everything. That's as ridiculous and as anti-science as it gets.
 
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But which dating method do you rank as the worst, and which of the features of it strike you are particularly lamentable?
Radiometric dating is completely founded upon an incorrect theory of origins. So is the atheistic materialistic world view, so that really comes as no surprise.

Humans don't live for many hundreds of years.
And you know this how exactly? Because people TODAY don't live that long? Again you follow fake science.

Your world view does not allow you to see anything but your fake "facts".
 

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Evidence.

To be part of a sensible discussion.

A consensus is an idea agreed on by the vast majority. Science is an idea that is falsifiable and testable. A "scientific concensus" is a non sequitur.

The evidence.

Where are you getting 4300 years ago?

Certainly not from the HPT.

HPT says around 3290 BC, give or take about 100 years
 

Stuu

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The ones with the vivid imagination are the atheist materialists. They actually believe that nothing created everything. That's as ridiculous and anti-science as it gets.
It's even worse than that. When you add the negative gravitational energy of the inflation of space-time to the positive energy of all the various kinds of energy and matter, you get zero. The scientific conclusion is that, on average, the universe is nothing.

Depending on what you mean by nothing.

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But which dating method do you rank as the worst, and which of the features of it strike you are particularly lamentable?


Humans don't live for many hundreds of years.

Stuart

Yet you say humans have been "evolving" for millions of years. How can humans have been "evolving" for millions of years without living for many hundreds of years?
 

Stuu

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Stuu: But which dating method do you rank as the worst, and which of the features of it strike you are particularly lamentable?
Radiometric dating is completely founded upon an incorrect theory of origins.
Can you be a bit more specific than that, so I can understand your complaint properly? Are you talking here about the early kinds of radiometric dating, or isochron dating? Can you be more explicit about the importance of a 'theory of origins' when it comes to how radioisotope dating works?

So is the atheistic materialistic world view, so that really comes as no surprise.
It can be difficult facing the facts. The actual facts, not the religious alt-facts. But once reality is your benchmark, there is beauty in it. I can't see how that could be said for books of talking serpents and impossible wooden boats, unless you are a particular fan of science fiction or historical fiction.

Stuu: Humans don't live for many hundreds of years.
And you know this how exactly? Because people TODAY don't live that long?
Yes, because people don't live that long today.

You're the one making the extraordinary claim. Where is your extraordinary evidence?

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Yet you say humans have been "evolving" for millions of years. How can humans have been "evolving" for millions of years without living for many hundreds of years?
I don't understand your question. Adult houseflies only live for about a month but housefly evolution has been going on for as long as mammalian evolution, at least the past 70 million years.

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It's even worse than that. When you add the negative gravitational energy of the inflation of space-time to the positive energy of all the various kinds of energy and matter, you get zero. The scientific conclusion is that, on average, the universe is nothing.

Depending on what you mean by nothing.

Stuart

Nothing means nothing. It does NOT mean a balance of positive and negative charges.
 

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Stuu: But which dating method do you rank as the worst, and which of the features of it strike you are particularly lamentable?

Can you be a bit more specific than that, so I can understand your complaint properly? Are you talking here about the early kinds of radiometric dating, or isochron dating? Can you be more explicit about the importance of a 'theory of origins' when it comes to how radioisotope dating works?
The idea of radiometric dating is tied to the idea of "the evolution of the solar system". Both are false.

It can be difficult facing the facts. The actual facts, not the religious alt-facts. But once reality is your benchmark, there is beauty in it. I can't see how that could be said for books of talking serpents and impossible wooden boats, unless you are a particular fan of science fiction or historical fiction.
Conflating atheism with reality is fake science.

Stuu: Humans don't live for many hundreds of years.

Yes, because people don't live that long today.
So you are basing your claim on something that you cannot prove. That's par for the course with you.

This passage is about people like you:

2Pe 3:2-7 KJV That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour: (3) Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, (4) And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. (5) For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: (6) Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: (7) But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

You're the one making the extraordinary claim. Where is your extraordinary evidence?
I didn't make the claim. You made the anti-claim.
 

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I don't understand your question.

I understand your desire to try to save face for your stupidity by means of your stonewalling.

How can humans have been doing something for millions of years without having lived even for hundreds of years--let alone, for millions of years?
Yet, you say that humans have been "evolving" for millions of years, while yet denying that humans have lived for hundreds--let alone, millions--of years. What stupidity from you.
 
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