He probably doesn't think there's any such thing as domestic violence or abuse in marriage either CM. It's a waste of time. Thankfully the sane recognize that rape most certainly can occur in a marriage along with the law.
Is marital rape scripturally defensible?
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No, you have been making up things I never said based on what you yourself have been thinking.
I am sure you believe that those rapists are not just telling the interviewers what they think they want to hear.
It would not be rape if there was no sex involved.
You only believe it is not logically consistent because you lack a deep understanding of marriage and the role sex plays within a marriage.
No, withholding sex involves emotional abuse, not physical abuse.
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When Is It Emotional Abuse?
Emotional abuse is an attempt to control, in just the same way that physical abuse is an attempt to control another person. The only difference is that the emotional abuser does not use physical hitting, kicking, pinching, grabbing, pushing, or other physical forms of harm. Rather the perpetrator of emotional abuse uses emotion as his/her weapon of choice.
The emotional abuse cycle follows the same pattern as that of physical abuse
Emotional abuse is a painful and serious pattern of abuse in which the primary effort is to control someone by playing with their emotions.
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When Is It Emotional Abuse?
Emotional abuse is an attempt to control, in just the same way that physical abuse is an attempt to control another person. The only difference is that the emotional abuser does not use physical hitting, kicking, pinching, grabbing, pushing, or other physical forms of harm. Rather the perpetrator of emotional abuse uses emotion as his/her weapon of choice.
The emotional abuse cycle follows the same pattern as that of physical abuse
Emotional abuse is a painful and serious pattern of abuse in which the primary effort is to control someone by playing with their emotions.
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You are wrong again, which is not surprising when I consider how often you are wrong.
You're asinine enough to think that rape can't occur in a marriage so what you "consider" wrong is completely moot.
Again, I am repeating what I hear you saying.
What makes you think the interviewers have pre existing expectations?
Rape plays no beneficial roll in marriage.
I know of a marriage where the bride, who was the daughter of a pastor, withheld sex from her husband unless they were trying to have a baby. Her motivation for withholding sex was to honor God by only having sex to procreate. No intention of any abuse. Needless to say, the marriage didn't last. While I agree that emotional abuse may be a factor, it is not the same as being physically violated.
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Then you're not talking about rape, you're talking about something else. :idunno:
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why not ask him instead of making an assumption?
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If you force someone to have sex against their will that's physical abuse.
Sometimes the moon is aligned with the sun in a way that largely blocks the sun from view. But mostly it doesn't do that.
I can always tell when you have nothing of substance to add to a thread, because you post something like that...but then, I suppose I could have stopped after "post."
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For those playing at home, into thinks that noting rape is an act of physical abuse and that women lying about being raped would be the exception to the rule, assuming he understood that one, is somehow like the above photo.
lain: No, really. He does.
I can always tell when you have nothing of substance to add to a thread, because you post something like that...but then, I suppose I could have stopped after "post."
For those playing at home, into thinks that noting rape is an act of physical abuse and that women lying about being raped would be the exception to the rule, assuming he understood that one, is somehow like the above photo.
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What a wingnut.
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It is never excusable. No is no.
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In a Christian marriage, it's not only never excusable, it's impossible
in a non-christian marriage, who cares?
I haven't read this entire thread as it's just too long to read.
Now just where in this passage does the Bible approve of rape? Rape is a crime that isn't about sex, but about asserting power over another person. It's about domination, not sex. That has been proven many times through interviews with convicted rapists.
So where in our relationship with God does He use overwhelming force against us? Where does He use force on us to at all? He uses love, compassion, kindness, etc... to draw us to Him. IOWs, God uses exactly the opposite concepts of rape in His dealings with us. Then He tells us, through Paul, to deal that same way with our wives.
Men are told in the above passage of scripture to love their wives as Jesus loves His church, and to love their wives as they love themselves. Does that mean that men really want to be forced to do things against their own will by God? Is that kind of idea/behavior what Paul is really teaching here? I don't see it in the least. As a husband and wife are one flesh, does a husband so despise his own flesh that he can justify committing a crime based in domination against his own wife? How does that fit into that passage of scripture?
I find the thinking that a husband cannot be guilty of raping his own wife extremely bizarre. I find it completely unsupported in scripture too. God doesn't tell us to physically dominate others around us. He says love thy neighbor, do good to those who despitefully use you. Does that not include a man's wife also? It's pretty bizarre to think it doesn't. I don't know how beating up your wife in a rape fits God's injunctions to us at all for rapists use extremely violent methods in the rapes they commit.
I didn't really think this site could get this bizarre, but it has.
Now just where in this passage does the Bible approve of rape? Rape is a crime that isn't about sex, but about asserting power over another person. It's about domination, not sex. That has been proven many times through interviews with convicted rapists.
So where in our relationship with God does He use overwhelming force against us? Where does He use force on us to at all? He uses love, compassion, kindness, etc... to draw us to Him. IOWs, God uses exactly the opposite concepts of rape in His dealings with us. Then He tells us, through Paul, to deal that same way with our wives.
Men are told in the above passage of scripture to love their wives as Jesus loves His church, and to love their wives as they love themselves. Does that mean that men really want to be forced to do things against their own will by God? Is that kind of idea/behavior what Paul is really teaching here? I don't see it in the least. As a husband and wife are one flesh, does a husband so despise his own flesh that he can justify committing a crime based in domination against his own wife? How does that fit into that passage of scripture?
I find the thinking that a husband cannot be guilty of raping his own wife extremely bizarre. I find it completely unsupported in scripture too. God doesn't tell us to physically dominate others around us. He says love thy neighbor, do good to those who despitefully use you. Does that not include a man's wife also? It's pretty bizarre to think it doesn't. I don't know how beating up your wife in a rape fits God's injunctions to us at all for rapists use extremely violent methods in the rapes they commit.
I didn't really think this site could get this bizarre, but it has.
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