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    Hello,

    So I'm posting here because I'm interested in issues like ...

    Theology vs Apologetics
    Reason vs Faith
    Honour vs Hypocrisy

    ... and because I like to argue.

    So, without further ado: the best match for "it is written" of Luke 24:46 is Hosea 6:2.

    Luke 24
    44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
    45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
    46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:

    Hosea 6
    2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.

    Theo

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    Howdy Theo, welcome to TOL.
    TRUST
    is a fragile thing.

    Easy to break, Easy to lose
    and one of the hardest things to
    ever get back.







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    • #3
      Originally posted by Theo102 View Post
      Hello,

      So I'm posting here because I'm interested in issues like ...

      Theology vs Apologetics
      Is it a vs though, really?

      Reason vs Faith
      Same question. Or, how do you mean reason vs faith? Is it your contention that they're a) mutually exclusive, or b) at least inherently hostile to one another, or c) that they are two different means to approach and/or receive truth and you're interested in examining their utility?

      Honour vs Hypocrisy
      I'm even more curious about the context for this one.

      ... and because I like to argue.
      Can be a good bit of fun and, on occasion edifying. Welcome aboard. :L)

      So, without further ado: the best match for "it is written" of Luke 24:46 is Hosea 6:2.

      Luke 24
      44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
      45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
      46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:

      Hosea 6
      2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.
      All things or some things? (tips hat)



      You aren't what you eat, but you're always what you swallow.

      Pro-Life






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      • #4
        Hi TH, thanks for the welcome.

        Originally posted by Town Heretic View Post
        Is it a vs though, really?
        It can be. Apologetics is a lot like political reasoning. You know what your conclusion is and you select arguments to support that. Those arguments can be theological ones or they can be fallacies, it doesn't matter because the purpose of apologetics is to defend a position. Theology is a tool that can be used to acquire knowledge, but like most things your motivation shapes what it gives to you. For your answer the acid test is whether or not you have to resort to fallacies to defend your position.

        Originally posted by Town Heretic View Post
        Same question. Or, how do you mean reason vs faith? Is it your contention that they're a) mutually exclusive, or b) at least inherently hostile to one another, or c) that they are two different means to approach and/or receive truth and you're interested in examining their utility?
        They're different in the sense that faith is based on our model of reality, but reason is based on our knowledge of the laws that govern reality.
        The Bible typically both treats faith and reason in a positive light, so in that context they aren't hostile toward each other. For faith to be a path to truth you've got to have a reliable source, but for reason to be a path to truth all that's required is a large enough factual context.

        Originally posted by Town Heretic View Post
        I'm even more curious about the context for this one.
        The textual context is the hypocrisy of the Pharisees and it's innate conflict with the idealism of the Messiah. Hypocrisy is a lot like fraud, it's inherently repugnant. More generally the conflict is reflected in social systems like governments which don't deliver what they promise or what their rhetoric implies.

        Originally posted by Town Heretic View Post
        All things or some things? (tips hat)
        The text says all things and the Messiah was an advocate of perfection so if not, why not? Hosea 6:2 is about Ephraim and the house of Judah.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Rusha View Post
          Howdy Theo, welcome to TOL.
          Hi Rushna,

          Trust & political parties seems to be an unlikely combination to me, but who am I to judge?

          Thanks for the welcome.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Theo102 View Post
            Hello,

            So I'm posting here because I'm interested in issues like ...

            Theology vs Apologetics
            Reason vs Faith
            Honour vs Hypocrisy

            ... and because I like to argue.

            So, without further ado: the best match for "it is written" of Luke 24:46 is Hosea 6:2.

            Luke 24
            44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
            45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
            46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:

            Hosea 6
            2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.

            Theo
            I can not figure what you want to Argue about.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Child of God View Post

              I can not figure what you want to Argue about.
              I'd probably get banned again if I told you.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Theo102 View Post

                I'd probably get banned again if I told you.
                Hell, I get banned for Posting Scripture.
                Literally.

                Posting Scripture against one of their favorites in response to something they have posted will get you banned.

                If you lace your posts with Pro Trump stuff you can post ANYTHING.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Child of God View Post

                  Hell, I get banned for Posting Scripture.
                  Literally.

                  Posting Scripture against one of their favorites in response to something they have posted will get you banned.

                  If you lace your posts with Pro Trump stuff you can post ANYTHING.
                  Do you have a link to that?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Theo102 View Post

                    Do you have a link to that?
                    No, on this website when they ban you for something, they remove the posted website.

                    Have you every read Gorge Orwell "1984", if you have not you should read it, it is a a 1 or perhaps 2 day read.

                    You can do it ONLINE.

                    It is only like just guessing 78 pages.

                    If you have not read it YOU NEED TO READ IT.

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